Poll: Should We Do Away With Anonymous Rude Marks?

[Franz]

@SubSailorVet

……I call it how I see it and don’t sugar coat what I say. Sorry if I offended anyone.

This was a good point and my style to live, I tell what I think with no malevolent attacks hide in beautiful words. Since my conscious is clean, I cant do nothing if someone can’t deal with my thoughts :innocent:

[SubSailorVet]

@Franz

@SubSailorVet

……I call it how I see it and don’t sugar coat what I say. Sorry if I offended anyone.

This was a good point and my style to live, I tell what I think with no malevolent attacks hide in beautiful words. Since my conscious is clean, I cant do nothing if someone can’t deal with my thoughts :innocent:

:+1:

[teacher]

@SubSailorVet

@teacher

No “offense” taken here. It was dished out to you & you responded …. that is all I saw.

Teacher, you have always been very amicable and friendly to me. I appreciate that! I do call things how I see them and never sugar coat my words. If I wasn’t reserved here I would have been kicked out long ago. I spent most of my working life in many supervisory positions, in the Navy I was a very young leader and made rank faster than normal because of my ways, one was telling my leaders how things really were, the hard truth and not telling them what weaklings think they want to hear. In the restaurant and nightclub business I had to get my point across to people with thick hard skulls, in IT I was the director of technology for a small but very busy hospital and had a few hundred “users” that were a buncha dumb@#€¥!, it was hard but I did talk to the nurses gently, the arrogant doctors not so much. when I was a fugitive recovery agent I used strong language not because I liked it, because that is the only language scumbag degenerate filthy criminal sh¥&#€?s understand. Well that and a nightstick across the skull or stun gun at the base of the neck gets your point across most of the time. Putting big bad tough guys in pink handcuffs and pink leg shackles pisses them off and takes away their bad attitude most of the time. Ha! But dealing with the hard criminals I discovered using respect not kissing their butt worked most of the time. Treating a criminal gently was hard to do because they were scumbags, but respect went a long way and they cooperated when I was respectful. If respect didn’t work, I used different methods, but they all eventually gave in and went to jail and I got paid. This is the only forum I’ve been where profanity is not allowed. It is a good idea, and the rude button lets SB know who gave it. I wonder if it was public knowledge who gave it how that would go??? What do you think?

Well said SSV. :+1: … It sounds as though you have had a variety of experience also.

It was actually discussed earlier in this thread to make the giver if the rude mark public. But it was decided that would not work.

I & a few others felt different…… BUT, this is SB’s house & his rules. And that also works fine with me, cause I think he does a fantastic job!!

So onward we go…….

Thanks also for the kind words. You just seem like a straight forward person to me. I like as well as respect that.

[cabfrank]

Straight forward is good. Straight forward and polite is even better.

[unknown00101]

@teacher

Oh it is a heck of a lot better than it was right before the rude system was implemented. No doubt about that.

Interesting… I was under the impression that the person giving the rude mark could not be identified. From what you say TK looks like I was mis-informed.

I believe SB posted that in the original rudeness thread: [2016-06-11] Crackdown on rudeness

Anonymous to us, revealed to SB so that he can deal with people who abuse it.

Edit: SB responded to this thread earlier and said the same here: Poll: Should We Do Away With Anonymous Rude Marks? - #158 by sb56637

[teacher]

@unknown00101

@teacher

Oh it is a heck of a lot better than it was right before the rude system was implemented. No doubt about that.

Interesting… I was under the impression that the person giving the rude mark could not be identified. From what you say TK looks like I was mis-informed.

I believe SB posted that in the original rudeness thread: [2016-06-11] Crackdown on rudeness

Anonymous to us, revealed to SB so that he can deal with people who abuse it.

Probably did… Correction… seems he did. I’m just getting old(er) & forgetful it seems
What was it someone called it/said they had, in another thread? CRS ???
Anyway…
I think I have the beginning of early onset (yeah, 65 is early… ) CRS.

Can’t Remember Stuff…… .
Either way, it is what it is; whether I remember it or not.
But……… I am very glad he can.

[Enderman]

@SubSailorVet

I call it how I see it and don’t sugar coat what I say. Sorry if I offended anyone.

That’s what I used to do, until people on this forum got very upset with me

[hIKARInoob]

@Enderman

@SubSailorVet

I call it how I see it and don’t sugar coat what I say. Sorry if I offended anyone.

That’s what I used to do, until people on this forum got very upset with me

Anything sugar is not so popular these days. Less sugar, more exercise… You know…

[DavidEF]

@hIKARInoob

@Enderman

@SubSailorVet

I call it how I see it and don’t sugar coat what I say. Sorry if I offended anyone.

That’s what I used to do, until people on this forum got very upset with me

Anything sugar is not so popular these days. Less sugar, more exercise… You know…

Well… some people seem to be sugar addicts. But, SB has already said numerous times since the Rude! system was implemented, that it is working as he intended and there is no large scale abuse. And, although I don’t like getting Rude! points (especially since I don’t think I deserve them) the truth is that the Rude! system is more of a soft reminder to us of how our words are received here. The real enforcement is handled directly by SB, as it always has been. And he’s really good at it, IMHO. This is the best forum I’ve ever participated in!

[MtnDon (Don Miller)]

@teacher

Oh it is a heck of a lot better than it was right before the rude system was implemented. No doubt about that.

Interesting… I was under the impression that the person giving the rude mark could not be identified. From what you say TK looks like I was mis-informed.

I believe no one but sb can see who is making the rude reports. Which I believe is the beauty of the system. Anyone can “complain” about a post and not be identified by the general membership. Being able to ID the complainant by members at large, especially the person being reported, will too often lead to unwarranted recriminations against by the offender. And then everything escalates into forum hell, which is what we’re trying to avoid or prevent. As sb mentioned too, our rude reports helps him sort out whether something he finds possibly offensive is offensive to the general membership.

[OrangePeel]

@Speed4goal

I think you should be able to see who clicks rude against you.

Some people abuse it and mark post that arnt even rude because they may not like someone. Make people a little more accountable for clicking it.

If something is rude then ya click away. But shouldn’t ve able to hide and do it secretly.

+1

Two-way “policing” should help balance things out.

[ToyKeeper]

I recently learned that some people think I’m kind of scary. So… it’s probably good that there’s a way for people to anonymously tell me I crossed a line. They might not do anything at all if it wasn’t anonymous.

As for calling it like one sees it, and not sugar-coating words, it sounds awfully close to being rude on purpose and being proud of it. Escalating by choice… which is kind of why the ‘rude’ button exists. Too many people were doing that, and it quickly turned into a dumpster fire.

As mentioned a few posts ago, “respect went a long way and they cooperated when I was respectful” is typically a better default style. It helps people interact as rational agents instead of falling back on old primal habits which haven’t really evolved away yet.

[raccoon]

@ToyKeeper

As for calling it like one sees it, and not sugar-coating words, it sounds awfully close to being rude on purpose and being proud of it. Escalating by choice… which is kind of why the ‘rude’ button exists. Too many people were doing that, and it quickly turned into a dumpster fire.

As mentioned a few posts ago, “respect went a long way and they cooperated when I was respectful” is typically a better default style. It helps people interact as rational agents instead of falling back on old primal habits which haven’t really evolved away yet.

Well said!

@ToyKeeper

I recently learned that some people think I’m kind of scary. So… it’s probably good that there’s a way for people to anonymously tell me I crossed a line. They might not do anything at all if it wasn’t anonymous.

I know you're a goddess and all, but I don't find you scary.

Also, I don't remember you ever crossing the rudeness line.

Keep up the good work!

[pommie]

Read this somewhere

“A lack of boundaries invites a lack of respect”

SB set the boundaries, we should respect them, as we are in his house :innocent:

Cheers David

[ToyKeeper]

@raccoon city

I don’t remember you ever crossing the rudeness line.

You should see the first draft of my posts.

[teacher]

@MtnDon

I believe no one but sb can see who is making the rude reports.

Yep… I think you are correct. Kinda what we figured out HERE …… :+1:

[Ronin42]

@ToyKeeper

@raccoon city

I don’t remember you ever crossing the rudeness line.

You should see the first draft of my posts.

but we didn’t and thats the point.

I bet mister “scary” just has a crush.

take it as a complement and move on.

[raccoon]

@Ronin42

I bet mister "scary" just has a crush.

take it as a complement and move on.

I admire women in general (and am sorry for making fun of Greta), but it's hard to have a crush on someone that I haven't seen.

[Franz]

I think this thread is going out of rails like another the old one, I did will comment, but lets this useless discussion dies!

@Ronin42

@ToyKeeper

@raccoon city

I don’t remember you ever crossing the rudeness line.

You should see the first draft of my posts.

but we didn’t and thats the point.

I bet mister “scary” just has a crush.

take it as a complement and move on.

So, I’ve tried not……I’ve tried SO hard to not laugh but its stronger than me

–500 paragons points

[teacher]

@ToyKeeper

I recently learned that some people think I’m kind of scary.

Forgive me…. but that is just downright funny.
The only way I can possibly picture that happening is if a new person started out reading one of your ‘other world’ posts. I can imagine that could possibly give a person not familiar with you pause.
But they would most likely recover real fast……

As far as being straight forward. Probably everyone has a different definition of that, and that is just fine. To me a straight forward person is being polite. I know exactly where they stand & to me that is a good thing. No guess work involved & usually no surprises or worries of a ‘knife in the back’ from that person. I am speaking of life in general here… certainly not just BLF.

I do think that either extreme of ‘telling it like it is’ most usually is not the best thing. Although, as SubSailorVet mentioned; there is a time for extremes also.
Sadly, in life; ruthless extremes are all a few people understand. But even with those people, once you have their attention; things usually go much smoother & low key.

And go to the extreme of ‘sugar coating’ something to the extreme is pretty much just sickening as well as confusing…. to me anyway.

Here on BLF, an internet forum; neither extreme is very, very, rarely called for.
Though the boundaries of those extremes vary from person to person.

I think here on BLF it works pretty good for the most part.