Best budget smartphone?

but one thing need to be considered: No WARRANTY after rooted( unless you do trick, but have to put some effort in there)
after years playing with ROM and rooted and many things on android phone, now i only use stock ROM with no root, ít’s stable and no time consuming in fixing error

Tell me about it. I just gave up my LG Prime, kicking and screaming, when AT&T just stopped supporting 3G phones last year, and even my Nokia Nuron feels like a brick in my pocket.

Now with a ZTE Maven 2, a nice phone in itself, but it feels like I’m carrying a dinner-plate in my pocket.

Whynahell do people do that?

That’s why I typically leave my phones in my bag all day. I’ll be damned if I have to carry a phone like that.

And carrying them in a back pocket, sitting on ’em, having ’em fall out, even getting swiped, no wonder people end up with broken screens all the time. Never once in my life have I ever cracked a screen on any phone or tablet.

Europe is different, this time for good.

You didn't played your cards right, just that. I use a stock optimized ROM, rooted. This means it's stable and debloated, everything works and on top of that I can enjoy the staggering benefits rooting offers.

It is advisable to do a proper research to determine the ROM which fits best, this is one of the things forums are for. A stock debloated ROM is generally a wise choice. Add rooting, done seamlessly via custom recovery, and you're the master.

Of course, I'm not trying to sell anything here. I come from an era where the OS would blindy execute commands like “FORMAT C: /U /Q” or “DELETE /F COMMAND.COM” without hesitation. Those of you who cannot bear with this sort of empowerment and the potential risks involved, don't root. I choose rooting and learning. Things are, however, much easier than they want you to believe. Big brother likes to discredit rooting because it poses a threat to their control practices and the rancid business model behind.

More than once I've broken my systems in the past, to learn from the experience and fix 'em one way or the other.

Cheers fellows

Money.

Big and slim means fragile, warranty won't cover your faux pas with the device if you smash it.

Avoid buying slim flagstones. I do not really mind if my phone is a bit beyond 10mm thickness, and this makes room for a bigger battery.

I like detachable back-covers, they protect the device and are easily and inexpensively replaceable.

I also take quite good care with my devices' screens. Can also homemade replace them, too, did that for a friend who would have dumped the device were him to have paid for such a service :facepalm: on a store.

Cheers

Depends on where you buy Barkuti
Import from China and warranty is an issue for sure

Thats GENIUS!

I have read lots of stuff from Batteryuniversity but the idea just never crossed my mind, that you could do restricting with APP :D

Too bad this racket was so difficult to root that I gave up after couple hours of trying because for some unknown reason my PC did not want to understand some usb-driver stuff correctly, lol...

Fits the Xiaomi redmi note 4 global edition.

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FYI Xiaomi redmi note 4 global edition screen is not gorilla glass and you need to get a screen protector.

I don’t think anybody familiar with rooting a phone and looking for custom roms would come to me asking what phone to get, i’m pretty sure they already know as much as me if not as much as a master l33t g33k like you, the only people that come to me for advice are people with a life and little taste and time for messing with a phone and learning the ins and outs of adb , recovery etc…

No, i don’t remember stating that.

Cubot Note S is ok with me. Amazon customers are satisfied with it, me too.

Me, for example. While I can do the magic behind the software, this doesn't means I am up to date with regards to what are the trending known good smartphones at any given time. Generally this is easily solved by reading some reviews and visiting the XDA developers forum, but can take much more time without good advice.

With my abilities I can easily help out people get into the rooted ROM thing, yet of course they have to show true motivated willingness to be responsible for their actions without blaming the guru. Only one close friend of me followed the path and, despite not being even remotely so g33k, until now he has done right and has enjoyed some of the benefits of rooting. It just takes a little common sense.

Cheers

P.S.: ask first, shoot later. :-)

You said it yourself only one friend of yours followed this path, while not by any measure an authority of your caliber, i have been rooting, flashing roms, changing filesystems, kernels and whatnot and since the Galaxy S I9000 the times of supercurio (Francois Simond) and the whole voodoo thing (i among lot of other phones had a flashed ZUK Z2 that i gave to my sister, i agree about the hardware and form factor), i don’t pretend to have your teaching skills either but as soon as i introduce the idea and explain to people what it involves the answer is almost always “thanks, not interested” the vast majority of people IRL have no time or interest for this, it requires a high level of autism, they want OTA updates and in most cases would be better of on AOSP, hence the success of the nexus line (although it lost it’s competitive pricing after the nexus 4) and now the interest for android one.

JamesB, can also be time, I loved to tweak PCs and such, buy now i ant to just use them. Used to adapt Windows untill it was very fast, now I install Ubuntu once and be done with it :slight_smile:
For phones, I dont want to walk a path that leads me back many years, just want it to work relatively safe.

Agreed ,although the MIUI rom is quite bloated, since it’s stable i didnt flash any of my 4 xiaomi (the only phones i still own along a ZUK Z1), can’t be bothered with it anymore if the phone works and is patched for security loopholes.

Just bought this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/lenovo-zuk-z2-pro/222914891819

Thanks to a 15% discount coupon, I've just paid 171.82€ for it, or about $211.83. I'm a happy camper! :-D

Cheers ^:)

After my trusty Samsung S7 decided to break (after I left it on my bike rack and drove away I might add :slight_smile: ) I bought a Oneplus 5T and have to say that this phone kicks some serious ass.
It’s working on a stripped-down version of the Android OS, so not a lot of bloatware, and it is extremely fast and battery life is phenomenal, will definitely upgrade to another Oneplus when needed.

What is the BLF consensus on Xiaomi smartphones? Quality? SW updates in line with Google Android releases? Battery life day-to-day and overall life? Never had a Xiaomi but would love to buy one at Gearbest.
Also, I am not entirely sure what all the tiny details are among the various models, they do seem similar.

My daughter has a Xiaomi phone (and she has used other brands as well) and she is extremely satisfied with it, performs more that its price, so to speak.

I have read somewhere that Xiaomi is putting out a whopping 5,000mAh battery phone!

Whopping? LOL :smiley:

We live in era of 10 000 plus mah (real capacity) smartphones with around 200$ price tag

Check this out:

Ulefone Power 5 (13 000 mah)
DOOGEE BL12000 Pro (12 000mah)
Oukitel K10 (11 000 mah)
Blackview P10000 Pro (11 000 mah)
HOMTOM HT70 (10 000 mah)
Oukitel K7 (10 000 mah)
K10000 MAX (10 000 mah)

There are tons of others in 6000 + category :+1:

Is that like 5,000+ lumen 5$ flashlights? Or are there really smartphones with higher battery capacities?

I used to have 2 of the early Samsung Galaxies, and they were good phones but I think all the latest Samsungs (like the iPhone) are overpriced.
Some people will keep paying a fortune to always have the latest model, but not me.
For the last few years all of my family have been using Oppo and Huawei phones and they are really good for the money.
There are different models for different budgets.
I don’t know how well known they are in USA, but in Australia they are available in most phone stores.