DQG Tiny 4th 18650 xml-2 review

There were 2 triple builds on this forum (one with Tiny 4th and one 3rd) and at least one on fonarevka. So you may be able to find the pics.

yes i see it alreadyā€¦.butā€¦.thats too much for meā€¦ā€¦sadly.hard to open,hard to changeā€¦ā€¦.its a pitty.so nice flashlight.but not enough bright

Is there an 18350 tube that would work with DQG Tiny 4th?

No, it would have to be a totally new body, there isn;t a tube per se.

it;s just a cap and a main tube, there is no middle section to be shorter

wle

What do you mean there is no middle section?ā€¦

oh
well there it is!
:slight_smile:
mis remembered

i guess you could make a short tube but i have never heard of one for sale

wle

Right, I was just wondering if maybe a shorty tube from some other light would workā€¦

The Nichia 319 mod was for better Tint/CRI, better UI, and higher efficiency,
not for higher output.

The XML2 in the stock light gets very hot while the body of the light remains fairly cool.
If you modify it with a proper PCB and heat transfer for the LED, you will quickly realise that it can only dissipate approx 10W heat maximum
(which is what an XML2 or XPL or Nichia 319 etc will generate at 3A).

Any more power than that and you are just going to burn your hand faster.
Tailstanding indoors with no airflow, mine gets hot and thermal throttles on high after a minute or so.

If you want a nice compact EDC light with good runtime and decent output for most common tasks, modify this light if you want, but keep the max level under ~10W.
If you want any more light than that for any extended period of time, get another, larger light with more surface area to dissipate heat.

Was the switch improved on new ones ?

what do you mean by ā€˜new onesā€™?
i had one from dec 2016 that i complained bitterly about, due to the terrible switch, design, and or manufacturing that made it come loose
wle

I see a gear best deal today . Do you think the ones being shipped today have improved ? Will epoxy help ?

epoxy might help make it stronger against the pushing, not sure if it would have thermal implications, or if it would permanently fix it.

i would guess the current ones, still calling themselves ā€œIVā€, are the same.

theoretically you could write to the head of the company and ask, but i never had much luck with that.

if there are new versions, he may not know what gearbest is selling currently.

wle

also i donā€™t see any deal - they have been as low as $13.99 recently

I did not know that . Iā€™ll wait for better deal . Thanks .

2.8V in my test.

WOOOT?? Any deal around? Iā€™ve seen thereā€™s a code for 26 USD at m4dm4xā€™sā€¦ do deals at 20 usd or under happened recently?

Also, the 4th version itā€™s been produced for a long time, any news about maybe a new version in the air?

exactly the information that I was looking for in this threadā€¦ with the new 18350 cells around, such this light screams for a short tube of some kindā€¦

no luck I guess? :frowning:

I wonder how can I improve performance of my Tiny.
I like the beam profile, wouldnā€™t want to make it much floodier. Or much throwier either.
Turning it to a triple (f.w. triple Oslon Black) is far beyond my skills.

Swap LED?
The LED included is quite good, I donā€™t see any stock emitter that would be 3V, significantly more efficient and not floodier.
Dedomed Samsung LH351D might be an improvement, but a small one and I feel itā€™s not worth the effortā€¦.

Res-modding?
Iā€™m not sure even minor current increase is a good idea without improving thermal path.
But maybeā€¦ā€¦should enable more improvement than LED swapā€¦

Improving thermal path?
Dunno, maybe potting with Arctic Alumina and attaching a copper plate on top of the light engine would enable me to spread some heat outwards?ā€¦

Painting interior with white heater paint?
There is GITD strap inside and it clearly glows. Which is an evidence that thereā€™s stray light hitting flashlight walls. Painting white would put some of this light in the spillā€¦Has anyone painted the interior of a TIR light with white paint and reported the result?

The only thing I would like to do is swap the LED to LH351D 90 CRI. But it is quite hard to do because it sits directly on the driver pcb.

You just talked yourself into not modding it. It is really perfect for what it is. Plenty of light. Plenty small. Easy UI. Just plain works. It doesnā€™t even get that hot, sure it gets warm but not D4 type hot. It is one of my favorite all around lights. If it ainā€™t broke, donā€™t break it. LOL