Where to buy good quality 16340 batteries for On The Road M3 Flashlight???

Yup, it was that one I bought :smiley: Actually it was me who initially mentioned that, but it’s irrelevant :wink: The Miller bought it and mentioned it here.
I dig AliExpress for lights regularly and found that a couple of months ago. I was tempted, them opted not to buy it and bought an Olight S1R Baton (on the way), as I wanted to have direct access to Moonlight and Turbo, and nor this Jaxmnve nor the OTR M3 have both.

But yesterday in “conversation” with The Miller in the thread (link), I went back to this Jaxmnve and decided to bought it.

Monday the light was at 22€ and Tuesday it went back to 11€ (the original price I saw the first time).
So, I ordered it and now I’ll probably need at least 1 or 2 16340 batteries. The light has in-built charger and The Miller mentioned that it charged his batteries till 4.19V, what is good.

Now I asked about the TF IMR and the PKcell because they were mentioned here before, but there is no much data or some relevant information…

I hope you get your cells soon so that you can play with the light :smiley:
And more than that, I hope they are good so that it can shine at full power :sunglasses:

Thanks Barkuti!! :wink:
I guess that is relevant enough, despite my great ignorance about those readings!! Hum, I’m gonna risk on the Pkell, buy 2 and hope they are nice enough to the incoming flashlight :wink:
Unless others like the “On the Road” are sold in any place, but I don’t think so…

Muchas gracias :+1:

Something for a side note. The Windyfire IMR16340 600mAh cells clearly look like the TrustFires, and it also happens that the TrustFire and Windyfire IMR14500s look and had similar performance in the reviews.

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Ditto!

I get my batteries from Aussie eBay seller supersports600. A big more expensive than from China options, but the 3 day delivery and customer service is worth it! He is involved with Keeppower so knows his stuff!
http://stores.ebay.com.au/supersports600

Max continuous discharge current is only listed as 2A though, which is too low for my liking. That said, I still have no idea what max discharge current is on the Lumintop 650mAH batteries I bought. Can’t seem to find any info in relation to this on my internet search.

Max. Continuous Discharging Current: 2C

Thanks for this info. I have saved him on my ebay profile, always good to have another reliable source of battery supplier. :smiley:

I contacted Neal about the On The Road 16340 battery.
He was surprised when i said they were one of the best (high capacity and current), ad asked for some more test results.
So i’m looking for test results, can’t remember where i saw reviews of that battery.
Maybe it was a Youtube review, i’ll have a look in my ‘watch history’.
But i think it would be great if Neal could source those cells (either with or without the OTR wrapper).
Maybe you guys can help finding test results.

I recall seeing something on David Sunshine channel, in his review of the OTR M3! Can’t be sure (and can’t check now as I’m not on the computer)!

Yeah, that’s where i got the high capacity measurements from.
He says it’s 799 mAh.
But another (more recent) review i just watched says it’s 600mAh.
So now i’m not so sure anymore… :person_facepalming:

By the way, i got 4x “PKcell” 16340 in yesterday, they seem to hold up fairly well in the M3.
I will try to do some tests later.

These are 2 reviews that analyse the battery. The first one is about the OTR U16, and the second about the M3.
Maybe it was here you’ve seen it?

Also, a quick insight on the battery’s voltage, in their branded charger: ENEDED .
And this post from The Miller about the capacity: Are these OTR M3 runtimes normal? - #7 by The_Miller .

Last week I sent PM to Neal asking about the same thing, about if he sells good 16340’s!

To not overload him with PMs and all that stuff, if you are in contact with him, can you take care of this and them return with some answers, please?

I’d be interested to get some good 16340s and of the OTR is one of the best, and he can arrange some, let’s do it!

Yes, please tell something about those too!
I ordered a 16340 flashlight (Jaxmnve M3, on AliExpress) and wanna buy some cells. But can’t be sure if the PKCell are good or if I should try the Trustfire IMR. So, if you have some insight on those, let us know please :wink:

I still use a few aw 16340’s (red ones) not the best but working fine in all of my highish drain 16340 lights.

I received the two Lumintop 16340 batteries purchased from AliExpress as well a couple of days ago. Will pop them in my Liitokala Lii-500 charger to check capacity.

Lumintop 16340 batteries capacity: 676mAh & 686mAh.

That’s great.

When you pop them into your M3, do you visually see a difference in light output between high and turbo?

Okay, so i did a NOR test on my Lii-500 with the 4 PKcells.
They’re all around 700mAh, may improve a little because they were brand new.
The internal resistance guestimate of the Lii-500 are inconsistent wild guesses, so it doesn’t mean too much, but it seems these PKcells are a little better in that regard than Sanyo 14500.
I think these PKcells are similar in performance to their 14500 cells.

My M3 draws 2.28 A on ‘turbo’ (according to my UNI-T clamp meter) with a freshly charged PKcell,
with a ‘half full’ cell (3.6 Volts without load) it’s 2.24 A.
with a 3.5 Volts (without load) cell it’s 2.05 A on the clamp meter.

So this is where it apparently starts to suffer from the sag too much. :frowning:

I will calculate the internal resistance now, i’ll get back to you with that.

Just remembered the Windyfire brand market its cells by themselves: http://www.windyfire.com/windyfire-imr-16340-600mah-3a-button-2pcs.html

http://www.windyfire.com/windyfire-imr-16340-600mah-37v-3a.html -> In the past you had to ask for a cheap shipping quote. They may still do it for those of you outside of the countries listed in the above link.

Cheers

And the plot thickens :smiley:

Thanks for the test Jerommel and the heads up on their site Barkuti!

Let’s see if the PkCell and the Lumintop worth a try. It they are nice, why not?
If they are not, Windyfire may be an option…or the Trustfire IMR…or the AWT IMR…or the On The Road :person_facepalming: :person_facepalming:

Okay, i calculated the internal resistance of one of my PKcells, i think i did it right.

The Voltage of the cell was 3.5 V without load.
I put on a load with a 1.35 Ω resistor, giving a Voltage of 3.2 Volts over the resistor, I=U:R so the current was 3.2 V : 1.35 Ω = 2.37 A
Now i can calculate the total resistance. R=U:I so R = 3.5 V : 2.37 A = 1.47 Ω
Subtract the 1.35 Ω from that, so 1.47 - 1.35 = 0.12 Ohm or 120mΩ

When I (current) is 2.3 A (M3 turbo mode) P (power) wasted as heat in the battery is P=I²×R —> I² = 5.29 —> 5.29 × 0.12 Ω = 0.63 Watt heating up the battery, which is nothing to worry about i.m.o.

Anyway, with Ri=120mΩ this is not a high drain cell at all…

PS: The numbers could be off by 15% (or something) due to my equipment.