LG high CRI LED E2L flashlight-maybe this LED is unknow to everyone..

I did the performance test on the LG led of the OP and will do a full post hopefully later this week.

A short summary on the current/output/voltage:

*the led died at 13A, which is exceptional for a led with bond wires, it was not even the bond wires that failed
*the maximum is at 8A (1733lm), pretty good for a 90 CRI led. The voltage is then 4.00V, so this led is pretty ideal for a direct drive single 18650 light.
*my ideal drive current would be 5A, at which current the led is at 3.54V and 80% of the maximum output (1400lm).

I looked at the tint for a brief moment at 50mA holding a small smooth reflector in front of the led, but I can not tell much about that yet, just that the hotspot seems to produce a ‘spiegelei’, which is pretty worrying for this led but it could be very well how I positioned the reflector in my hand.

Is it only me that notice the model name is LEMWE33390SU5000 on the picture of the led reel package and not LEMWE33390HU5000 as the specifications picture show?

This is the specifications for it?

I did notice that, could be a newer (better) bin that was not there at the time the table was made. I would have to dig in the LG coding to find out what it is.

Can just post the one for LEMWE33390HU5000 to. You see the “HU” specs say 3A max and “SU” is 2A max.

I guess the number after the 333 is for the CRI.
So LEMWE33370HU5000 is for the CRI 70 led.

edit: those numbers was only for the CRI 70 led (but the 3A max is the same). See original post for numbers on the CRI 90 one.

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Thanks djozz! It seems efficient enough to think about using it.
Can you maybe do some more testing with reflectors and/or optics? :wink:

Clearly, CRI isn’t everything. The CRIs are excellent but as you’ve said, the tint is hideous. Anyway, I just hope the LG isn’t like that.

Mine arrived yesterday. I don’t have any quantitative test like djozz can provide (yet), but I did toss one into one of my standard setup P60 drop ins (5x7135 QLITE, OP reflector) just to check out the beam and tint. It isn’t great.

Tint I would say is on the slightly greenish side, but pretty good overall for >5000k. The real problem is the beam. Serious “fried egg” in the hot spot. Right in the center of the hotspot is a very noticeable yellow, then the rest of the beam seems a consistent color. This is in all modes. I haven’t tried with a TIR yet so not sure how that would look. Looks decent as a mule though.

Ai, I had seen that spiegelei correct then :frowning:
I had ordered a complete E2L with this led some time ago, so will wait for that one for my TIR-verdict.

LG E2L waiting in the post office. Looks like they don’t really work with reflectors so maybe testing them inside the light is sufficient for now.

I hope they look better when used in triple or quad configuration with TIR optics.

I think it’s fair to say that this is the most disgusting LED in a flashlight I’ve seen… (ok, maybe an exaggeration).

Just look at the green/yellow tint, which varies all over the place in the beam.

The cellphone beamshot doesn’t convey the true horror, but gives an idea of the shift within the beam.

Thanks Maukka, very interesting!
This is the first LED with a high R12 (deep blue) value, but CRI of only 89-90 instead of 95+. Orange (and green) is dominant in the spectrum. Purple is weakest. Skin probably doesn’t look so great?
It’s also interesting that the color temperature is much lower than stated.

Manufacturers spec the CCT integrated not from the hotspot with optics/reflector. This is the light in an integrating sphere, which is probably within spec considering drive current (E2L on high, edit: color temp is same on mid, tint a bit greener):

Well yes, they measure it straight on, so basically the spill of the flashlight. 800K difference is still a lot though.

Output and tailcap currents:

Low: 19 lumens, 71mA
Mid: 174 lumens, 660mA
High: 589 lumens, 2200mA

Total flashlight efficiency is then about 65lm/W on high.

Yuk! :confounded:

Thanks for testing maukka!
Now I’m not so looking forward anymore receiving the E2L with these leds.
Perhaps these leds work well in a mix with very rosy Nichia leds.

Hmm. Maybe of use in a wide-spectrum light.

Difficult not to agree with Maukka’s evaluation……
…….Hopefully they come packed in air sickness bags

*what happened to Jaxman ?
Did Clemence scarf up all the good Nichias ?

I’m not sure its good to imply that something bad “happened” to Jaxman. They took a chance on a new and unknown LED and I applaud them for that. Taking risks is how awesome new stuff gets found…sometimes. :slight_smile: Its also how a company can set themselves apart from the competition. I mean now we know these emitters don’t have good tint, and we know that because Jaxman took a chance on them. I, for one, appreciate that.