Hi guys.
This is my first post here.
I’m looking for a 1000+ lumen flashlight which I can use mostly while Camping and night trekking. It should be compact, pocket friendly, having an adjustable beam, continuous 1000+ lumen mode and Usb charging so that if the battery dies, I can connect it to my powerbank and use it.
I’ve read about BLF, Convoy, Eagle eye, and many others, but some of them have 1000+(turbo) mode only for 1-3mins. And I want something which can work for more long or maybe till the battery dies.
The “WUBEN LT35” seems promising.
And I thought maybe I should ask the experts here before I go with wuben. Can’t find much about wuben lt35 online… Maybe its new or something.
Really need some help here guys… And I think there should be a lot more people trying to find a budget and pocket friendly flashlight with my requirements.
Finding one that can be on max all the time will be tricky, it also depends on what the temperature is where you use it.
Convoy BD series has a zoomie, tha tharng is vert nicely done, without a rubber thingy that can get loose or leaking.
The problem is combining these four demands. Budget compact single 18650 lights, you have a bunch of them. And some come with USB charging as well. But most of these lights cannot sustain 1000+ lumens for two reasons. 1) not enough heat sinking, i.e. the light is compact. 2) Usually the led/driver combo results in reduced output with depleting cell.
To have 1000+ lumen independent of cell voltage this means you have to get XHP35 led/boost driver for a compact single 18650 light. These are getting more affordable, but they’re not in the sub $20 range yet. The trend is that they do come often with a USB charger.
When it comes to adding beam adjust-ability that’s a different story. There is just not that much choice.
I think you need to compromise, and ask yourself what you really want or need.
Hi
Thank you for explaining, but I do know the logic behind it…
From what I have read, the wuben lt35 doesnt have a stepdown setting for turbo mode.
Maybe cause it has dedicated fins for cooling??
Mid: 360 lumens for 185 minutes
High: 1200 lumens for 105 minutes
The latter is not possible (pretty sure about this) without step-down. 1200 lumens equals at least 3 x 360 lumens, so runtime should be at least a third of 185 minutes, meaning less than an hour. So there must be a step-down.
This light is also an example of what I wrote in my previous post; the 1200 lumens is only at start-up with fresh 4.2V cell. As the cell depletes, so does output.
Oh… That’s Right
I didn’t do that math…
About an hour for 1000+lm is good if it supports… Other flashlights just run for about 1-3mins in high mode.
I’m just hoping lt35 gives me a better turbo time…
Anyone here has a lt35? Or knows anyone who has a lt35
The problem is that many manufacturers don’t state step-down; this isn’t even required by ANSI. Only recently some companies specify, like Olight with the X7R. If you don’t want step-down, you can look into low-tech budget lights like the Convoy S2+. It gets pretty hot on turbo with 8x7135 chips, so you have to control it yourself. But… still same problem with reduced output with depleting cell…
For camping and night trekking I think that a flashlight with a reflector (hotspot and spill) is, paradoxically, more versatile than one with an adjustable beam.
And for night trekking, most of the time you don’t need 1000 lumens for long to enlighten a trail. It’s better to preserve night vision with lower brightness output to save up battery runtime.
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I hadn’t heard of Wuben, so I searched and found this flashlight on Amazon. The second image clearly says it has “temperature protection”. Wouldn’t that mean it steps down if left on turbo?
Hi 9930wilson!
Welcome to BLF and enjoy your time here
After hIKARInoob ’s explanation, I guess I’ll follow The Miller’s suggestion on the Convoy BD04.
- it is about 20-25 USD (max 21€);
- it is a push-pull zoomable, not a twisty zoomable, so it’s better to use with just one hand;
- it gives you the possibility to use it with a power bank to recharge the 18650 battery that it will use;
- if you request the seller - Simon, from Convoy store in AliExpress - the biscotti driver can be installed, offering you many using configurations;
- the Convoy lights usually have a good combination of quality of host, leds, drivers…everything, being built as flashlight to last long;
you can choose the type of tint you prefer, with 5 variations LEDs at your disposal!
I don’t know the Wuben light you mentioned, nor any person that has it, so I won’t talk about that.
I do know that having 1000 lumens constantly will - probably - not be possible in a pocketable/compact flashlight; it may be possible on bigger lights, using several batteries, and good heatsinking or cooling fans!
I also know that the Convoy lights offer great quality and that you probably won’t be disappointed!
If you go for it, ask the seller to install it with a driver with 7135*8 chips: it will get hot on the highest, for sure, but it allows you to have some “bursts” in illumination (close to 1000 I guess) and to use it in low modes, ideal for close range and “not blinding” moments!
Also, chose the type of light colour that you prefer (see the link below).
This is just a suggestion, though
Hope you find a light that suits you the most :+1:
The HaikeLite HT08 is an interesting looking zoomie. It’s 850 lm. And, with the amount of fins, and the fact that it does not list a turbo mode, it may very well be able to sustain it for a good bit. Gear Best currently has it on Flash Sale for $15.99 HT08
I have the MT07 and the SC01, and I’ve been very impressed by both.
Frankly, unless you’re planning to mount a bunch of them to a roll-bar and go off-roading, you’ll never need 1000lm for anything but short bursts (to scare away grizzlies or whatever), vs continuously.
A headlamp with maybe 10lm-50lm would be plenty to light up your path, and not ruin your night-vision too much.
Even if you “need” way way brighter light, the visible difference between 500lm and 1000lm isn’t all that much. And 500lm (or even 300lm) is much more reasonable as far as heat, battery capacity, etc., than 1000lm.
As others mentioned, having one or more of the features on your checklist is fairly easy, but all of them combined would be really hard to get.
^ Yeah you don’t need 1000+ lumens to surive, true. But then again you don’t need a dozen or more lights either… But it’s just awesome! When I’m in the woods with my 4x18650 soda can flooders, I want my light to pump out as many lumens as possible continuously, which means around 2000 to 3000 lumens. It’s just very satisfying to see everything light up like Christmas…
I’d like a long throw option too… If I’m camping on a mountain and if there’s something a bit far, I’ll prefer not to carry another flashlight for it.
Or If I plan on taking a photo of the night sky with my torch pointing towards the sky or something.
I think it’s a bit tricky. I believe to have read on an occasion that he was wrong about a technical issue. An output/time test would show what we (all) would like to see; minor gradual step-down is difficult to notice compared to a discrete step-down. But the Wuben is supposed to blink when it steps down, so dunno… Look at the run time data of the Niwalker MM20EB here: Review Niwalker MM20EB
It’s of course a different light, but there is no active step down present either; the light looses brightness gradually. This must also be the case with the Wuben to obtain the specified runtime.
I checked the comments and also saw this, from another comment there:
“My light does step down on the highest setting, something to do with the heat”
to which the reviewer answered:
“I have yet to see my sample cycle down due to heat”
I’m not sure if the reviewer did the cycle down, of course, but I also don’t think a flashlight could hold at 1000 lm from a 4.2V to a 2.8V battery. Neither due to the voltage, nor the heat!
But, I’m not specialist here and I have to go to sleep
