*BLF LT1 Lantern Project) (updated Nov,17,2020)

Costs, I am sure will be done roughly the same as the other three projects.
Napkin calculations based on costs of parts and what is available (with the Q8 we went with, if part A cost us 100 we calculate it as 50 to account for bigger quantities in buying and being closer to the source)

And look at the others:
Q8 vs lumen max M6 $40 incl shipping vs $95 exclusive shipping
Q8 vs TM06S $40 vs $90
GT vs TN42 $111/$150 vs $200/$249
FW3A vs D4 (that has a 18350 tube say $5) $30 vs $35

So I think it will be a fair price but as before not ultra cheap, quality and features do cost money. A lot of value though, that is the real aim.

List is updated in the OP. :slight_smile:

Compared to the Q8: 1 led instead of 4, no chunky copper board, less aluminium needed, but added is onboard charging and powerbank function. $30 ??
I’m in for one, maybe later more if I can show a factory prototype to people.

I’m not in this team but can I do a suggestion? Use 3 18650’s parallel instead of 4 (and thus leave legoing with the Q8). I made a lantern attachment for my Q8, and although I used it with pleasure it is all pretty chunky and heavy, for me it will be more usable if the lantern is a bit leaner and more lightweight than SRK-size, and runtime will still be long with 3 batteries. It will also set the BLF-lantern more apart from the cheapo lanterns currently in the market.

This is a project still in the development phase. Chances are it will be available to order in 2018, but no guarantee.

Put you on the list for 30 craig-IL
Time not clear, I hope that Thorfire does it and it is done before summer northern part of world. But who knows :wink:

Yes let us compare with Q8 from the ground up:

Tail
Lantern needs lanyard holes and tripod mount, little more expensive

Tail PCB and springs same

Tube same

Head bottom side
3 tripod mounts more machining but no shelf so thinner tube to make it from
Probably a little cheaper.

Driver
More expensive with charging and power bank chips and connectors

Led board cheaper for sure :wink:

Top part head
No refector but the way to get power to the led and hold diffuser and transparent thing and heatsink makes for a lot of parts and steps to make.
Sure this all cost more

Larger better box , costs more.

So I don’t think $30 is realistic.

I think it will be more and writing all this $50 seems not a bad guess.
But feel free to correct me :wink:

I don’t recall if it’s been asked but wouldn’t the ability to just get a lantern head that fits on the Q8 body be enough for most people? On the other hand the body is probably cheap compared to the head so that may be a non-starter.

I’m interested, please add me to the list!

Interested here!

Sigshooter lots of diffuser things can be used with the Q8 but DBSARs aim was a really good lantern
Hence the down facing LED in warm tint.
There are no real good ones now, either plastic or expensive or both

It is possible to design & build the production model of the BLF lantern using the exact same body-center section, bottom PCB & springs, and a slightly modifived version of the tail cap as on the Q8 to help save some costs in new machining and parts.

Most all those predictions with the ideas are good. even if this lantern is sold for $50 ~ 60 That is an great price for a quality lantern with the capabilities this will have compared to the many large, all-plastic, bulky, cold-tinted and badly designed lanterns on the market in stores or online in that price range. Even the best lanterns in the $80 to $100 dollar range i have & tested don’t come close to what the Prototype does right now.

DBSAR, I just wanted to say thanks for doing what you’re doing. I’m very much looking forward to it.

That was kind of my thought that the head was the most significant and costly part of the lantern. I can definitely see a modified tail cap with perhaps a hook on the bottom to allow hanging it from a limb, etc. In any case it was just a passing thought and I wouldn’t expect the body to add more than $10 - $15 to the lantern (just a guess of course). The ability to swap heads would allow some flexibility when taking the Q8 into the outdoors since only a single light would be needed. But then again it’s not that much more effort to take a Q8 and a lantern than a Q8 and a large lantern head.

The tail cap on this 4-cell flashlight almost threads onto the bottom of the lantern prototype. I really like this design, as it is very stable as a base, has lots of slots for a bottom lanyard, and is thick enough to add a tripod-mount hole in the center.

its not only me, we now have a team working on this. :slight_smile:
It got started as a project to design & build a lantern that works better than any store-bought lantern i have used & seen on the market so far, and to be able to offer a tested design as a production model with the help of some great people here on BLF.

That tail cap looks great for a lantern. As you said a stable base and the ability to hang lots of lanyards from it.

BLF is a great place with lots of talented people who are willing to share their time and expertise. It’s also a bad place that tempts people to spend spend spend :money_mouth_face:

Just kidding on that last part of course…well maybe :person_facepalming:

Hi, I’m interested, please add me to the list! Thanks!

Well, it certainly is promising to hear that there is now a team working on this. My sincerest compliments to the team! Nonetheless, special thanks to you for vision and motivation.

Djozz wrote -

This makes me think, probably impractical, but how about using one slot of the battery tube from the Q8 for the USB charging/powerbank function. That way if you buy the lantern, you have the option of converting your Q8 into a 3 cell with USB charging/powerbank.