FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

Toykeeper about the differences of the two swords / firmwares:

They are correct in that there needs to be a change to the tailcap end. Bevel it for grip

Could you put me on the interest list?

That covers differences in basic usage, but there are changes beyond that too. Here’s a more complete summary of its modes (from an “off” state):

  • Basics:
    • 1 click: On (at memorized level).
    • Hold: On (at moon), then ramp up.
    • 2 clicks: On (at ceiling level).
    • 2 clicks, but hold the last click: On (at ceiling level), then ramp down.
  • Extras:
    • 3 clicks: First blinky group (battcheck, sunset, adjustable beacon at last-ramped level, tempcheck).
    • 3 clicks, but hold the last click: Second blinky group (adjustable bike flasher, adjustable party strobe, adjustable tactical strobe, lightning storm, adjustable candle flicker). Remembers which was used last.
    • 4 clicks: Soft lockout mode. Doubles as a momentary moon mode. 4 clicks to exit.
    • 5 clicks: Momentary / signalling mode at last-ramped brightness. Disconnect power to exit.
    • 6 clicks: Muggle mode. Disconnect power to exit.

People may notice other little differences too… like when turning on the response is faster, but when shutting off the response is slower (it waits to see if you’re doing one click or more than one).

More information is in the FSM thread: E-switch UI Development / FSM

If it seems complicated, just remember that basic usage can be described in only eight words: Click for on/off, hold to change brightness.

do you (themiller) have any new hard or soft data on what the price will be?

initially, was it $30?

wle

also how long will it be?
just wondering if that will be changing
wle

It certainly will not be more expensive than 30 USD. It will also be unlikely that it’ll be cheaper though. So I think the 30 USD are pretty much set.

30,00 $ + PayPal

And, paraphrasing The Miller, it will be done when it’s done.

whoa!
I am spoilt by the sideswitch. I can’t abide twisties anymore.
The only tailies in my goto’s are the cuTools and only ’cause of their fantastic patinas.
Don’t think I’ll be in for one after all, sorry.

i meant length- which i think is 94mm, right?

wle

I’m in

Interested please. :slight_smile:

It’s not a twisty but has a tail switch

Oh, was he thinking this light was a twisty? I didn’t really understand what was said.

Anyway, this light has a rear mounted e-switch with Narsil ramping firmware. It’s quite unique.

Please add me for 1.

Please add me to the list. Thank you.

At the end of the day, this light will be in our hands. And it’s best to accommodate what our hands desire. So I’m a fan of the prototype.

If I understand correctly, the button location is probably the single biggest difference between the FW3A and the Emisar D4. Also one of the most sensitive to personal taste. Side switch or rear switch may be enough to determine which one a person chooses.

I think the FW3A has several nice advantages though… things which aren’t really a matter of taste:

  • Three-channel driver with regulated modes up to about 3 Amps (instead of 350 mA).
  • Less tint shift and higher efficiency between ~150 lm and ~1500 lm.
  • Clip nicely integrated into the design and included by default.
  • Rounder beam (no pinwheel pattern).
  • More flexible / powerful interface.
  • Button somewhat easier to find in the dark, and easier to press when hot.
  • Lower price, probably.

Meanwhile, the D4 has some advantages too:

  • 4 emitters instead of 3, so higher maximum brightness.
  • Bigger heat sink for higher sustainable output level.
  • More tint/emitter choices available.
  • More host colors available.
  • Works with 18650, 18500, or 18350. (possibly also 14500 and 16340 with a spacer)
  • Choice of two optics.
  • Is already possible to acquire.

Between the two, I suspect I’ll probably like the FW3A a bit more, but it’s a close call. For me, I think the FW3A’s clip and 3-channel driver and tail switch may outweigh the D4’s higher brightness and bigger variety. Won’t know until I try one though.

You can only hold a tailswitch in dagger or cigar/ette mode
I quit smoking in 1995 and don’t want memories of that experience
and Psycho scared the shite out of me

at least you understood tailie :disappointed: