Amen to that 
Jack, remember when they used to quote quoted quotes quoting quoted quotes? They’d run like 30 deep in a post, take up an entire page. It got a bit crazy there for a while… lol
Oh, by the way, I FEEL that guys pain every time I see him hit the floor! UGH! hahahahaha
Hope it ain’t a dumb question, but are youse sure those are wood screws and not sheet-metal screws?
Still not too swift using them instead of what the holes are properly threaded for, but maybe they were thinking, “Hey, the shelf is fairly thin aluminum… can’t find my M-whatever screws… might as well use sheet-metal screws.” or something to that effect.
Yep, that was one fun thread 
I accessed it on mobile only, and the white part of the page was barely a fifth of the total horizontal length of the page! Fun times.
Hardwood, meet teeth! :smiling_imp:
Yeah, I’ve wondered what would happen to my neck if I fall, something like that? Or if a kid bumps me from behind and makes me fall and hit a chair or something, will these 6 Ti screws snap right out of my vertebrate or what? Freaky to think about, for sure.
But hey, on that note! 
I’ve found a new use for hot rodded lights! If I do stupid stuff and get my neck hurting I can turn a nice light on in Turbo and move it around about 3” from my neck and it feels so GOOOD!
MACROLUMEN Therapy. 
I’m gonna say it straight: I’m not bothered with Convoy cutting a corner just once or twice given how much modding is a factor for them. And I have way more reason to complain than two semi-inadequate screws, as I see it: the pill on my latest light (an S2) doesn’t have the driver retaining ring - instead, the driver board is welded directly on the pill in two spots. I’ll post a photo when I can.
Soldered, is what I hope you meant by that. Yeah, Jaxman does that as well. Much easier to unscrew a brass retaining ring of course and if you contact Simon I’m sure he’ll send you one or some or something. Still…
As I understand it Simon has only a bare few people helping him, I can see being small and having little or no professional help, how do you keep your eye on these guys all the time, right? But yeah, a pita come modding time.
Hopefully we’ll never find out for real
Well now, flashlights have ousted lanterns and candles as illumination devices, now they’re open to replacing hot water bottles as thermal therapy devices? That’s news to me! Gonna try out a torch turned on Turbo next time I bend a joint at the wrong speed. lol
Just think of the modes as warm, soothingly hot, and Bacon…. maybe stay away from Bacon mode…
One of those sidewalk chalk artists should paint a Dinobyte on that basketball floor. lol
Yeah, soldered. Not a native speaker, so a few small parts of the English language (technical terms especially) elude me sometimes. Always learning more, though!
Eh, I’m really not bothered. Being a Biscotti light with the exact tint I wanted, I see no reason to mess with the pill’s components, and the soldering is solid from what I’ve tested. Besides, I have a 3/5 S2 that I’m not really in love with if I ever get the urge to flex my modding muscles :smiling_imp:
Hi DB Custom smiles
The original C8 that everyone, including Convoy, has copied came out about 10-12 years ago and was branded Ultrafire. It had a great design but was made of cheap parts. Plastic lens and reflector, cheap switch and finish, Q5 led. It sold for less than $10 USD.
Wow! Thanks JasH! And can you believe we can still get that exact same cheap light on FastTech!
I modded a friends “A60” recently and it was not branded Jacob A60. I found one on here for my son for his birthday this past summer that is branded Jacob A60 and it seems to be a quality light. My friends light looked cheaply made by comparison but he swears up and down he bought it as an original when they first came out. He wanted it to have throw, so I put an XP-E2 Torch in it at about 2A. Those little Torch emitters have remarkable throw, especially de-domed, even if lumens is pretty lousy. So now I have to wonder what an C8 would do with a de-domed Torch emitter?
Might need to pick up a C8 host from Simon and find out…
Every S2(+) with 6*7135 or 8*7135 is soldered, only up to 4*7135 can use retaining ring. It’s the way it’s always made.
The 105C (stars select the modegroup) has the 4 spring-side 7135s at about 9/11/1/3 o’clock positions (stars at the bottom).
The 105D (UI-select the modegroup) has the 4 spring-side 7135s at 12/3/6/9 o-clock positions.
On the 105C, the corners of the 7135s keep the retaining ring from locking it down. Some people dremelled out the ring to fit around the 7135s, but you gotta “untwist” the wires first before snugging it down (twisting it).
It’s just easier to solder the beastie into the pill.
But even with a 105D, only 5 or more 7135s will use 7135s on the spring-side, so yeah, a 4×7135 105D can use the retaining ring.
I did compare my Klarus gt12 and Convoy c8. Well i was surprised that the Convoy did as same as good as the Klarus (beamshot distance, brightnes). No special test, just my eyes.
Klarus costed me 80 EUR, Convoy 20 EUR. Gotta order one or two more from Simon!
Yep, that’s the magic of Convoy. Get the whole collection if you can while at it, show the less-broadcast models some love too
I have a S2+, but the C8 is way better. Will order 1 or 2 more I have only problems with mode settings, cause dont know how to do it properly.
Can’t say much about the S2+, as I don’t have one. But I can say that people love it because it’s a pocket-friendly flooder, a role that the thrower C8 doesn’t fit in the least and fails miserably at when employed as such. Apples and oranges.
As for operating the UI, our buddy M. Hanlen’s advice should help you:
Are you referring to the XT12GT?
In which case, the Klarus will have a few advantages. The dual switches makes it easy to access the brightness level you need at the time. More importantly, the XT12GT uses a boost driver, allowing it to output its maximum brightness even as the battery drains. The C8 may compete initially, but as the battery drains, its brightness will decrease, while the XT12GT’s boost driver will maintain output.
Now, whether those advantages are worth 3-4x the cost of the C8 is up to you. Personally, I think the C8 and S2+ have a place in anyone’s collection, just because they are cheap enough that, well, why the heck not? But if you are going to be using a light heavily everyday, it may be worth it to also look into a light that uses a boost driver. For a thrower, that would be something like the XT12GT, Armytek Predator/Doberman Pro, etc.
But again, for light-moderate use, the C8 is great. And even if you use a light enough to justify something more expensive, when you can get a C8 for ~$20, it makes a ton of sense to pick one up as a backup.