New Convoy C8 – Clearly better

The old drivers with the 3 or 5 modes were the only bad thing on Convoy’s lights. The memory function used “on time” settings which aggravated me and other people.

I haven’t bought a Convoy since he came out with the new biscotti software, but I assume it uses “off time” memory and is much nicer to operate.

My 3 Convoy lights either have been reflashed to guppydrv or driver swapped to Narsil.

Were you saying your having trouble with the new biscotti mode settings? I can’t help you on that. Has anyone done a video on the menu settings for Biscotti?

I could not follow M Hanlen’s explanations. His instructions were not synchronized to the video. It was just a flurry of presses and flashes. Lol.

I guess that’s what the double time menu looks like.

After 10 half presses, it does a flutter, this is when you press for memory on/off, right?

So you wait longer and it does:

1 preflash that you don’t count?
Followed by the number of flashes that you DO count?

Turn the light off after the number of secondary flashes that match the mode you want.

Is this correct?

Here, I’ll try and put it in a nutshell:

Half-press the switch very fast until the emitter doesn’t immediately turn on when you let go of it. At this point, the Convoy will be in configuration mode, where it’ll do a BIP-boop flash (very short bright flash and a longer dimmer one), a BIP-BIP-boop flash (two short brights, one long dim), and if you don’t do anything, it’ll go back to the first mode of the currently programmed mode group. If you didn’t intend for the torch to go into config mode, you can just let it run its course.

If you half-press it during the BIP-boop, it’ll go on mode selection. Then, it’ll flash a number of times with a small downtime where it’s off, starting on one flash and going all the way to 12 flashes, upon where it’ll go back to 1 flash. The number of flashes indicates the mode group that it’ll fall into when you HALF-press (this is important) the switch.

Now, if you half-press it during the BIP-BIP-boop flash, you’ll toggle mode memory. If it was on, it’ll now be off; if it was off, it’ll be on now.

It sounds way harder than it actually is, believe me. And yes, I added old TV robot noises to help me explain it :smiley:

Okay, so there is no pre flash when counting the 12 modes. If it flashes 5 times, then that’s mode 5, right?

Yep, seems like you nailed the concept already. lol

I have an old style Convoy C8 with a removable pill and 8*7135 driver held in by a retaining ring. So clearly it’s not ‘every’ C8 :slight_smile:

Using a 7135 regulation chip driver is still pretty easy, stack the extra chips on the inside and the retaining ring will fit like always. :wink:

If having ANY chips on the spring side is a problem, remove them and put them on the inside, there’s almost always room for them in the driver bay. I’ve gone 4 high plenty of times. :smiley:

As an aside, the price you pay for the ArmyTek is potted drivers and glued bezels, similarly the Klarus is difficult to mod as well. Pay more, play less. :wink:

For me, the boost driver and constant current drivers are unnecessarily hard on the cell, requiring ever more current from the dying cell. Hard discharges will shorten the cells life as well as leave you suddenly without light in a worst case scenario, while the regulated boards that use 7135 chips will eventually dim and let you know you need to take precaution, as with the direct drive FET drivers. Tit for tat, I guess.

Hence, never ever ever run the cells down that far. :smiley:

That’s the same reason why I don’t trust multicell (series) arrangements. Even with nominally balanced cells, the slightest imbalance will run down one cell more than the other(s). Only way to keep that from happening is to make sure you don’t get close to burning them down too far.

No the Convoy C8 never have soldered in driver in any version. It always has retaining ring. Only the threaded pill S series had solreded in drivers with 6 or 8x7135s and maybe the early pilled M series. For example the S3 doesn’t have threaded pill so it is a retaining ring type fitting even with 8x7135.

Right, the C8 has a bigger driver and can use a ring. The S2 uses a tiny driver.

Both 17mm same drivers. Only the head has more room for the retaining ring in C8 than S2 pill. :wink:

Huh. Your sure right. I had to look just now. I’ve changed drivers in both before, but didn’t realize they were the same size. I thought the S2 was 15mm and the C8 was 17 and that was why the S2 needed to be soldered.

My mistake.

C8 comes with retaining ring, I don’t know why I thought it doesn’t…
S2 6/8 * 7135 doesn’t

From stock, the 6 or 8*7135 versions are soldered, but 8*7135 can be used with regular retaining ring! It is a more “fragile situation” as the ring can “jump” if the flashlight falls, but it can be done :wink:
Can tell about the C8 as I don’t have one. :arrow_right:

For those who have the new clear version would you say the extra price is worth it? Looks like it comes with quite a few good upgrades

Yes. The only UI wasn’t very good at all. The new UI is much better.

Yes, although you don’t have to get the clear version if you want those upgrades. The main upgrades are the XP-L HI emitter, Smooth Reflector, Biscotti Firmware, and AR Glass. There is a Black model with the XP-L HI and smooth reflector; you can add that to your cart and add a note requesting Biscotti and AR glass, then wait for Simon to adjust the price before submitting your payment. For the Gray model, you have to include the XP-L HI and smooth reflector in your note.

So the Clear model is the easiest to order, but you can get the other colors if you prefer.

I’ve never seen a Convoy C8 with an OP reflector. I’ve only seen smooth.