If it comes down to it, you needn’t return the light. Many, many members of this forum will be happy to purchase it from you.
I was hoping that my first light will arrive before this group buy closes so I would have something to base my decision to buy second light but, that’s obviously not happening now.
Folks from US and 555-1000 batch are getting their second lights delivered by registered shipping before European guys from 0-555 batch and DHL shipping are even considered (not to mention guys from australia and other countries).
I bet that they would be more motivated to honor every customer equally if we payd half when applying for GB and second half when product is delivered 
Anyhow, standard chinese bussines… :weary:
BTW, I followed this thread almost every day, as much as I could (~250+ new comments each day, lengthy task to read all that), you know, I have a job to attend, every day, anyways I wasn’t aware that we switched to WW tint!
It is not a warm white, it is still NW, just 4000k vs the 5000k we had planned on. NW is from 4000k to 5700k. CW starts at 6000k and WW starts below 4000k.
The warm/warmish tint on throwers is a divisive topic for some. Photos and videos don’t do justice to warm tint (mostly because of digital sensors in cameras). I have the warmest tint Convoy C8 XP-L HI and it will cut through moisture in the air very well.
As far as perception goes, I don’t let the masses decide what I buy and don’t buy. If anything, when Lumintop starts selling this light on their own; they should offer options. Let the purchaser decide what they want.
This is a open groupbuy of a newly designed torch with a few prototypes. If you don’t know it was decided to be 4000k months ago due to availability of led, that’s is your own fault or laziness to follow the progress. If you don’t read thread as often, you can ask about the tint in the thread. BLF GT team work so hard to come out best stock thrower in history and deserved our respect and appreciation. Please stop whining about it as it is explained to you a few times. You can sell it if you don’t like it when you try it. I think it is fair if you don’t return it because it is not Lumintop fault that you don’t like the tint.
I know I read this quite a while ago but is everyone in the first 1500 getting one light before those that bought 2 get their second? And then everyone who bought two, gets their second before those that bought 3, get their third. And so on and so on?
Anyone else have their light arrive in just the “inner” box, no outer box?
If you don’t like the color of the LED, have a member change it out for you. I’m sure there are plenty of modders here who will do it.
Smells like troll in here tonight
Hi I’m curious what high powerd lights do you currently have in your stable?
No lights have been shipped by registered mail, yet. Only DHL.
I don’t understand why some feel slighted. Everyone is equal. There is a little preferential treatment in that the first 1000 get shipped first, but still, everyone is equal. We will all get our lights.
Some folks act like royalty because they signed up early and that people who sign up late are peasants. I just don’t understand that. We are are equal.
If Europe lights went out first, all the usa folks would complain. You can’t please everyone.
All businesses are about profit, not just Chinese.
No, only the first 555 got single lights due to the special low price. Then from 555 and up you can get your 2nd, 3rd, etc…
…why would you be curious of that…?
I expect that’s directed at me… no this isn’t about trolling… it’s about changes to the GT which me (and I presume others) were not aware of, and which potentially may well be a deal breaker based on expectations set prior to ordering.
Ask before accusing.
Why is it so hard to answer, just a simple 14 worded question?
Come on. No one has really been picking a fight with you. In fact, we have more of a friendly attitude than is being asked for.
Oh, that one is easy. As was already pointed out a dozen times, the newer and warmer version is in fact better, not worse. It will not be disappointing IRL, all but that.
just curious,
what would the beam look like with a blue glass filter on the front?
this might give it the “wow” effect
(I see a niche market forming here) $…. lol
Thanks for that… really appreciate the information, and especially the welcoming non-accusatory tone it was written with - thanks.
It wouldn’t be right to make a final judgement until I’ve tried it out… but the video really worried me because of the visibly huge difference… and then to find the change in LED had been made without anyone other than seasoned daily followers of the thread knowing… well that annoyed me from a comms perspective.
I’m sure many have worked hard… but I’m afraid that something like this can and does (justifiably) ‘spoil’ the experience… just like you ordering a new red car like you saw at the showroom… and it arrives a notably different shade… it’s a mistake which shouldn’t happen. We should have all had emails prior to orders being taken to update us of the change - to give as the chance to make an informed decision at that point of what we wanted to do in light of the new situation ref LED change.
If you disagree with another user on a forum, attack their argument instead of attacking the user and what/how many lights they own.
It’s not hard, in fact it’d be really easy to answer… but I’m thinking you’re asking something to question, critique or otherwise cause trouble… and I don’t want that…
It would simply reduce the red and green wavelengths, and make the beam almost not visible.
The reason cool white LEDs have a much more visible beam is because they output a lot more blue and green light.