[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

Not to worry, all the orders from when he posted that will be canceled as soon as martin gets back online.

It will not effect those legitimately on the GB list. It just adds a lot of work to the team.

Thanks for the detailed analysis, Jason!

I personally thank you and all the team members for doing a fantastic job! :+1: I do understand what you are saying here and it is unfortunate what has happened! Hopefully Neil along with Lumintop will still be able to fill the orders for the BFL members that were put down on the list! I guess now all we can do is hope that all will work out for the best! :+1:

I have been asked by Mr. Thomas King to attempt to offer an apology and also an explanation for his actions tonight regarding the giving away of the “NOT TO BE SHARED” info from the GT PMs. Please bear with me.

Ok, first off I’m only jumping in the middle of this because I’ve known Thomas from FB for a while and I’ve never known him to be anything other than a decent guy. I understand what happened here and everyone has every right to be extremely upset. However, (I’m no one of any importance in the flashlight world) but I will vouch for Thomas in that all he ever wanted to do was help out people who had contacted him asking how they might get a GT.

He remembered how he paid for his GT, BUT SOMEHOW FORGOT ABOUT THE WARNING ABOUT NOT SHARING THE INFO. I know that’s messed up, but I personally paid for mine and I didn’t even remember reading that message until it was brought up tonight. I’m sure I read it too and I certainly didn’t share it. Anyway, he shared it. OUCH!

But I contacted him through messenger because everyone was cursing him terribly and I knew he would never do anything like this on purpose. It took a while but I was finally able to explain to him what he had done… and he is mortified. Yes he insisted he had permission, but as I suspected, he was referring to permission he had gotten from an FB admin. (IT’S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE FB ADMIN IS NOT TO BLAME… AS THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT THEY COULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS ASKING PERMISSION TO SHARE…. I ASSUME THEY THOUGHT HE KNEW OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SELL THEIR GT).

So I explained to him that by sharing he was allowing new buyers to jump in front of guys who were already on the list and waiting to pay. He DID NOT fully comprehend that until just a few moments ago, and like I said, he is embarrassed and very, very sorry. So please accept Thomas’s apology. He’s a good guy and his reputation among the flashlight community is very important to him. He goofed… he messed up. But I’d like to see everyone treat him with respect, because he didn’t mean to hurt anyone.

Thanks for reading.

Your missing the fact that there is only Neal to do all the order processing and to supervise quality control, packing and shipping. He does not have time for emails or PM. He is already swamped with them.

Ps, Lumintop employees do not speak English so they can’t help with emails or PM. It’s just Neal (who speaks both).

Above and Beyond, Great Job GT Team! :beer:

I been through organizing a few group buys, and didnt even get the light free out of the hours upon hours invested into the deals on the M6 and k40. Most, I wont say all, group buys are done by a member who wants to give back to the community. Could not imagine the extra time put in when you are actually developing the light also.

His stupidity and all the extra work he created for the team should ban him from all BLF GB’s in the future, and I still want to know his BLF username :rage:

I think everyone should chill. It’s a flashlight. A gloriously ridiculous one, nonetheless, mostly a toy.

Wimmer, did your friend remove the post?

Could you please ask him if he shared that purchase info with anyone before he posted it on FB? If so, maybe Neal can find those orders and cancel them as well (assuming he shared it before that FB post).

Thanks

Yes he deleted that hours ago.

:+1:

Do we know how many GTs were purchased with the leaked link? I honestly don’t think they were too many, given that the group isn’t very active. Maybe just a small inconvenience but nothing to worry about :+1:

PM sent

JasonWW

Time for mr. thomASS king to give power of attorney over to his kids, unless of course they are as stupid as he was. :person_facepalming:

i’m not sure how to do it, but can the codes be a “one use only” code? that would eliminate sharing—-perhaps a more computer savvy person could do this… otherwise the team would have to put used codes in an excel file, sort (easy) and decline and duplicates

Please tell him on behalf of the GT team that we accept his apology.

I kind of figured this might be the case (although admittedly I was still quite upset) and I always like to have both sides of a story before judging someone too harshly.

If you could have him PM me on here that would be great so I can see exactly how much damage was done. If he will stop sharing the link it is possible we can salvage this without having to completely start over, which would be great and save a lot of time.

I had figured something like this would happen at some point.

Everyone else, lay off him. I told you from the start to not go out on a witch hunt. I meant it!

Politely letting him know he made a mistake in a constructive way, that is fine. Cursing and abusing him IS NOT OK. EVER!! Even if he was doing this with malice intent.

So when I make a mistake, is this what I have to look forward to? Everyone going off their rockers? It is inevitable that I will make a mistake at some point.

I told ya’ll, we caught it early enough that while it would take a lot of extra time, no one would loose their light. There was no need for people to get personal about this.

This is why I won’t go near social media and had sworn off all online forums until I found BLF and the nice people here brought me back to the internet. Please don’t make me reconsider my choice.

This is my hope as well, if it was only a few and the link is removed then we should be able to just cancel a few orders and continue as normal.

gosh i wish i had seen this and got in on the group buy!!! i am really bummed now!!! guess i will have to wait around til the public sale sadly. still super excited about the light though.

Lay off him. We now know it was an honest mistake.