[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

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Just a thought, it was suggested Lumintop’s tooling blades are being worn down to a nub, to avoid replacing them as often when making the reflectors – hence the possible reason for inconsistent finishes from one to the next.
Now we are all of a sudden wanting quality over quantity, surely we aren’t going to get it if that tooling theory is true….???
Lumintop is not even making the reflectors my friend.

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aggillator wrote:
I posted this earlier but didn’t receive any responses. Not sure what forum protocol is in those cases so I’m just reposting here:

Forgive me if somebody asked this already, but is there any plan to make different types of heads for the GT? I feel like I just want to screw a laser on there and have this massive light saber. Or a head that is pure flood? I imagine with power like that you could make a light that would let the sun retire. And I guess it would be cheaper for anyone who has a GT, because no need to buy the handle. Maybe I’m just living in a fantasy world. I know nothing about what goes in to making one of these things. All I know is I love ‘em.

This is strictly a thrower. The power is within the batteries. The LED gives off the light. The head on this thing is where your money is well spent! I was a machinist for 3 years, I can only imagine how huch aluminium is being scrapped just to make this thing. I’m just curious what the tolerance is on that head. Nevertheless, you you bought yourself a light saber.. Did you see some of the videos? That beam looks like its straight and goes on forever.. I can’t wait to get mine! However, If you want the sun in your hands get the DX80! It’s the most unbelievable impressive light I have, and have ever seen..! The amount of power this light draws has to be unreal.. You can cook eggs with this thing or warm up your hands REAL quick! Cool
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Looks like he has shutdown

He hasn’t. He still does them just at a smaller scale and turnover time will take awhile as its not his primary focus anymore. I honestly wouldnt mind the wait. Great lad btw!

Edit: You can always sens a PM his way and see if he is ok with it Smile goodluck!

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Just looked back at pag 426, 29th dec when the first GT’s arrived. The reflectors on the photos have the same marks as the latest. So the quality hasn’t changed since the first entered the market. More than 2 weeks since the first GT Arrived. Enthusiastic reactions so far. Let’s hope all 555 (and others who have paid) will get the GT soon. Have a great weekend!  

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Flashem wrote:
aggillator wrote:
I posted this earlier but didn’t receive any responses. Not sure what forum protocol is in those cases so I’m just reposting here:

Forgive me if somebody asked this already, but is there any plan to make different types of heads for the GT? I feel like I just want to screw a laser on there and have this massive light saber. Or a head that is pure flood? I imagine with power like that you could make a light that would let the sun retire. And I guess it would be cheaper for anyone who has a GT, because no need to buy the handle. Maybe I’m just living in a fantasy world. I know nothing about what goes in to making one of these things. All I know is I love ‘em.

This is strictly a thrower. The power is within the batteries. The LED gives off the light. The head on this thing is where your money is well spent! I was a machinist for 3 years, I can only imagine how huch aluminium is being scrapped just to make this thing. I’m just curious what the tolerance is on that head. Nevertheless, you you bought yourself a light saber.. Did you see some of the videos? That beam looks like its straight and goes on forever.. I can’t wait to get mine! However, If you want the sun in your hands get the DX80! It’s the most unbelievable impressive light I have, and have ever seen..! The amount of power this light draws has to be unreal.. You can cook eggs with this thing or warm up your hands REAL quick! Cool

So after thinking about my own comment it had me thinking (was that much aluminium being wasted machining this reflector..?) .. I was curious to see how reflectors of this size were done. “The shop i worked at never made flashlight reflectors. Nor had the equipment to do what I have just seen.

What I found out is that most of these reflectors are “Spun” (“Reflector Spinning”) It was interesting to see how some of this size were made.
That being said, and for those of you with lower quality reflectors (reflectors finish), over worked or dull tooling is NOT the case; that is however, if these reflectors are being spun?

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Aluminum reflector this size and thickness,is made from single big peace of aluminium block.
After CNC machining all leftovers are being recycled..

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Texas_Ace wrote:

As well as some parts to mod the drive for 3V LED’s as well.

Yes please Smile

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Wrathbringer27 wrote:
Buttkicker wrote:
Looks like he has shutdown

He hasn’t. He still does them just at a smaller scale and turnover time will take awhile as its not his primary focus anymore. I honestly wouldnt mind the wait. Great lad btw!

Edit: You can always sens a PM his way and see if he is ok with it Smile goodluck!

more than likely will contact him when i eventually get my hands on a GT LOL

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had to run to town, its raining, wanted to take my light, my red neck genius kicked in
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nice diff user too , might hang several of these on xmas tree next year Shocked

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NikolaS wrote:
Aluminum reflector this size and thickness,is made from single big peace of aluminium block.
After CNC machining all leftovers are being recycled..

I doubt that.
I assume they get rough casts in reflector shape and then machine it.
Otherwise it would be a huge waste of aluminium, time, energy and tools.
Sure they recycle the machined off aluminium, but recycling those bits with machine oil and surface oxidation into the same quality alloy is costly too.
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Let the debate begin, which material will protect better? A cotton blend or wool?

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Been travelling for over a month and just now paid for my pre-ordered GT and batteries! I just moved to Hawaii and have a few miles of private beach to test it out on!

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Mr McLumen wrote:
Let the debate begin, which matetial will protect better? A cotten blend or wool?

LOLOL ~!! Big Smile
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I think wool is more translucent than cotton fibres

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Been travelling for over a month and just now paid for my pre-ordered GT and batteries! I just moved to Hawaii and have a few miles of private beach to test it out on!

Were you still able to get it at the $115 total price?
There was a deadline of 12/31 for the special price folks to pay.

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No one recieved any lights today?

Any tracking notices?

They must be out playing with it instead of posting about it. Lol

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JasonWW wrote:
samnavy wrote:
Been travelling for over a month and just now paid for my pre-ordered GT and batteries! I just moved to Hawaii and have a few miles of private beach to test it out on!
Were you still able to get it at the $115 total price? There was a deadline of 12/31 for the special price folks to pay.

This was extended a few weeks ago when no lights had shipped as many were waiting to see reviews before buying.

A new date was not set but we should figure that out soon. Likely we will change the password for that link next week.

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NikolaS wrote:
Aluminum reflector this size and thickness,is made from single big peace of aluminium block. After CNC machining all leftovers are being recycled..

So then I assumed correctly. The money is in the head.

Why are they using square stock? Round stock closest to it’s OD would be cost effective? It would scrap less material and can easily be turned in a CNC lathe.

Are you sure there using square stock for a round reflector?

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Texas_Ace wrote:
JasonWW wrote:
samnavy wrote:
Been travelling for over a month and just now paid for my pre-ordered GT and batteries! I just moved to Hawaii and have a few miles of private beach to test it out on!
Were you still able to get it at the $115 total price? There was a deadline of 12/31 for the special price folks to pay.

This was extended a few weeks ago when no lights had shipped as many were waiting to see reviews before buying.

A new date was not set but we should figure that out soon. Likely we will change the password for that link next week.

I assume the link you speak of was intended for early buyers on the list?

I haven’t received any link for payment yet and hope I didn’t miss something?

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Flashem wrote:

I assume the link you speak of was intended for early buyers on the list?

I haven’t received any link for payment yet and hope I didn’t miss something?

The 3rd round of PMs has not been sent yet. (3rd round will start at #1050 on the sign-up list.) The PM will have the link to buy the BLF GT.

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Flashem wrote:
NikolaS wrote:
Aluminum reflector this size and thickness,is made from single big peace of aluminium block. After CNC machining all leftovers are being recycled..

So then I assumed correctly. The money is in the head.

Why are they using square stock? Round stock closest to it’s OD would be cost effective? It would scrap less material and can easily be turned in a CNC lathe.

Are you sure there using square stock for a round reflector?


Where did you hear “square”? No one said that.

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raining out im bored.
just shot the lux meter with the gt on MOONLIGHT
it was 1000 lux at 4 meters on moonlight Shocked
probably more if i shot it at 10 meters.
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I am guilty as is Flashem of picturing a “block” as a six sided object with square and/or rectangular sides.

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Now that I have the GT light in hand, I can appreciate this prototype design more and wish it can come to reality someday…

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JasonWW wrote:
Flashem wrote:
NikolaS wrote:
Aluminum reflector this size and thickness,is made from single big peace of aluminium block. After CNC machining all leftovers are being recycled..

So then I assumed correctly. The money is in the head.

Why are they using square stock? Round stock closest to it’s OD would be cost effective? It would scrap less material and can easily be turned in a CNC lathe.

Are you sure there using square stock for a round reflector?


Where did you hear “square”? No one said that.

Nikolas said, “big peace of aluminium block”.. I assumed the word “block” was “square aluminium stock”.

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Flashem wrote:
JasonWW wrote:
Flashem wrote:
NikolaS wrote:
Aluminum reflector this size and thickness,is made from single big peace of aluminium block. After CNC machining all leftovers are being recycled..

So then I assumed correctly. The money is in the head.

Why are they using square stock? Round stock closest to it’s OD would be cost effective? It would scrap less material and can easily be turned in a CNC lathe.

Are you sure there using square stock for a round reflector?


Where did you hear “square”? No one said that.

Nikolas said, “big peace of aluminium block”.. I assumed the word “block” was “square aluminium stock”.


I assume he meant to use the word “stock” instead of “block”. Meaning a solid piece of material. Block could be any shape now that I think about it.

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Throw me in to darkness wrote:
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Throw me in to darkness wrote:
Just a thought, it was suggested Lumintop’s tooling blades are being worn down to a nub, to avoid replacing them as often when making the reflectors – hence the possible reason for inconsistent finishes from one to the next.
Now we are all of a sudden wanting quality over quantity, surely we aren’t going to get it if that tooling theory is true….???
Lumintop is not even making the reflectors my friend.
Ok, ummm swap out Lumintop for the manufacturer of the reflectors and the question still applies Thumbs Up
OK.. It is then up to Lumintop & Neal’s QC to give final pass to reflector.
TA stated that Team OK was given to V1 reflector & anything ‘better than that’ was a bonus.
But it also seems LT is making every effort to provide the best reflector possible in this price point light. Maybe even better quality than was expected.

The slight inconsistencies we are seeing appear to be in the final finish/coating, not in the machining.

It appears possible (not confirmed yet) that maybe a tiny number slipped through the QC control. But, as stated; that is yet to be confirmed.

As I understand what TA said…. everyone will get (one way or another) ….
……. a reflector ‘at least meeting’ the standard the Team OK’d.

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NikolaS wrote:
Aluminum reflector this size and thickness,is made from single big peace of aluminium block.
After CNC machining all leftovers are being recycled..
To me, NikolaS was simply saying they were using a big CHUNK of aluminum. I did not read it as a reference to shape.
I read it as “block” = “chunk”…… nothing more.

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Ok all. Most of us knew what he meant. Lets move on. Facepalm

 

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