1200 vs 6000lm what's the difference?

I highly doubt that light is 6000 lumens. Also, not a Cree LED. Lots of exaggerated lumen ratings and “fake” LEDs around.

From a single xm l2 you can get not more than 1000 lm.

I suppose you can see others items claiming real lumens or something like that on banggood.

So both are perhaps just 1200 or 1000.

For the sake of discussion lets assume the lights are 1200 and 4000.
Let’s say from a top brand with real specs.
What would be the best option for me considering the usage scenario I described?

Dunno Banggood is accurate.
2000 lm from a XM T6

But the price is surely very good….

How can you say the price is good if you don’t know any of the components? If it’s an XM-L, it’s probably something around 500 - 600 lumen. A bit less if it’s a fake Cree. Not all are bad, but the tint is really ugly most of the time. For a couple of bucks more you already get a Convoy S2+.

Stepless dimming, sounds like you need the Narsil User Interface.
So buy yourself a BLF Q8, or an Emisar D4 :sunglasses:

For the rest, the difference between 100 and 1000 lumens is a lot. The difference between 1000 and 2000 is much less (to me at least)

If I may recommend an alternative, I would suggest you look at the Emisar D4 with the Nichia 219C emitters from MTN electronics or intl-outdoor.

Throw sucks, but my god it produces a beautiful HCRI floody beam.

Infinitely variable levels from low to ludicrously high. User interface is cool, press and hold and it starts at lowest mode and ramps up, single click turns it off. A single click turns it back on at the level you left it. Double click from off to go straight to the highest setting.

Double click while on to toggle between current ramped level and highest output.

Be warned, it gets HOT on max, use it with high output cells.

I said it’s good because it’s really cheap and am planning (as I wrote in my first post) to replace the led with a low temp, high cri led. Perhaps also another driver.
If only the body is good then it’s still a good deal for $3.95.

Don’t forget that a driver with Narsil UI will cost you around 17 USD, then you will need a decent host with nice square threads, (instead of the crappy triangular ones which will dissappear after some rough use) and you will need a good DTP mcpcb with LEDs and optics which is around 16 USD as well, so please do yourself a favor and just buy the D4 :sunglasses:

https://intl-outdoor.com/emisar-d4-high-power-led-flashlight-p-921.html?zenid=1baeaeca1623c2d53760bcfb364a38d2

Or from M4DM4X / Neal with some discount

https://m4dm4x.com/neals-deals-emisar/

I’m not a diver, nor a photographer.
But I heard around about archon, maxtoch, acebeam, haikelite diving lights.
Maybe also a nitecore one…

Is there a code from M4DM4X to lower the cost on the Neal’s Deals page? I don’t see any price difference…

Probably you need to register, if i’m correct the price is a couple of dollars less using M4DM4X compared to intl outdoor.
EDIT, just checked, it seems the prices have changed and the prices are now similar! Too bad, so it’s no deal anymore.
Neal is very busy lately, Chinese newyear coming up and he is just married, so it will be sent, but communication from him will be at minimum.

Nop, there is not :wink:

Emisar looks great. Also for cold winters….
Do you have similar advice for a 32650 ot 26650 light

I do not have any experience with 32650 cells, nor flashlights that carry them, sorry.

26650?

The only 26650 i own is a Convoy L6, which is still stock, but thats quite a light, 3800 lumen on turbo.
Good compromise between output and runtime, and the quality is fantastic, solid as a rock, but its not for Everyday Carry.

There are several threads about it, and there are plenty of parts available to modify it. In stock it’s already great, but it’s a great host to modify as well.

It all depends on your criteria, what do you think is important on a light?

Budget light: Ultrafire DV-S9 diving light?

More expensive but one of the lights I adore without having it: Klarus G20 :wink:
Member Fin17 usually has some code for this one , check here: GearBEST's Sale . Rovyvon A5 $15.99 . Convoy S21 $15.99

I got a bit sick of trying to chose… so I just bought a FiTorch MR35.

I’m going to buy the one you suggested too.
Two questions.
A] What cells does it take? Button, flat or raised. All?
B] “floody 10623 optic instead of 10622 clear optic ( +$1.00 )”
How much more floody? I have a Convoy BD04. How do both optics compare to that flood wise. If they are cheap and easy to replace I might buy both but see no option for that.

I don’t know the difference, but mine are clear optics on the Emisar D4. LEDs are XP-G2 S4 3D (5000K). My guess is that the “floody” optics will improve the beam at close range and maybe give you less throw. For a close range it will probably make it better.
About the cells, I would recommend Sony US18650VTC6 , non protected batteries.
Some beamshots of the Emisar D4 to see the beam.
First at 45m, second at 70m.