What's your light with the worst tint?

62 posts / 0 new
Last post

Pages

WalkIntoTheLight
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 12/05/2015 - 10:26
Posts: 2231
Location: Canada
What's your light with the worst tint?

I’m curious what people’s worst tints are, especially if it’s from a model that should have a better tint. We all know cheap $1 lights will come with an awful blue cool-white tint, but what about more expensive lights?

My worst tint is probably on my Creelant V4A with the neutral-white Cree XP-L HI option. It’s a 4xAA light I got on a group buy here. I was expecting a traditional neutral white tint: descent, but a hint of green in the corona.

However, what I got is a fairly even beam, without much color change across the beam, and no hint of green. So, what’s my problem?

My issue is that it has horrible CRI. Things just look washed out and bland and harsh under this light. It’s very unpleasant, and makes it hard on the eyes after awhile. It’s much worse than a traditional cool-white light. It looks better if I keep the brightness down, which makes it harder to pick out colors for criticism (this is indoors tail-standing). But on full output (tail-standing), it’s almost like light from a low-pressure-sodium highway light. Sick

Edited by: WalkIntoTheLight on 01/19/2018 - 15:26
Lightbringer
Lightbringer's picture
Online
Last seen: 7 min 13 sec ago
Joined: 08/30/2016 - 14:12
Posts: 17764
Location: nyc

47s Quark 2AA-X. Horrible horrible green, ‘though I love the twist-selector.

Early Zanflare F1 in “NW”. Pea-soup green on top of yellow. “CW” is closer to NW, but still green-tinted. The CW is a much better tint than NW, even though I like the warmer end of the spectrum.

Thorfire VG10S. Thick schoolbus yellow corona in the beam (also kinda ringy). Love love love the regular VG10, though.

Jetbeam Jet-I and -II, kinda green, but not too horrible. Nice smooth beam otherwise. I “EDC” a II in my bag as a just-in-case light.

Cheaper lights that I intended to just use as hosts, I’m dismissing w/o even mentioning. Lots of CW, luckily few if any truly Angry Blue™.

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Turningbluechips
Turningbluechips's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 3 weeks ago
Joined: 02/14/2016 - 15:17
Posts: 379
Location: PA

Nitecore SRT7. It’s my fault though. I did a hot gas dodome on the stock XML2 and it shifted way more yellow than I thought it would. As soon as Richard gets some more SST40s in stock I’ll be good to go.

Tumbleweed48
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 6 days ago
Joined: 11/12/2012 - 23:21
Posts: 849
Location: Canada

My 4 Sevens ‘everything’. Love the lights themselves (especially the Minis), but not one has a tint I can tolerate. To make things worse, I’ve never been able to pry one open to mod it!

niraya
niraya's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 10 months ago
Joined: 09/07/2012 - 03:23
Posts: 126
Location: EU

Most of my current light have Nichia or are pleasantly neutral/warm, so probably worst is BLF A6 in 1A, which is not that bad by itself, just compared to the rest I do not like it and hate to use it, especially in forests it sucks.
The very “purply” lights like Petzls, Black Diamond and few other monstrosities I had to give away Glasses

ryukin2000
ryukin2000's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 04/17/2017 - 15:40
Posts: 180
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Lightbringer wrote:
47s Quark 2AA-X. Horrible horrible green, ‘though I love the twist-selector…..

Same here. Replacing mine with a XM-L T6 4C when it comes in.

AlexGT
AlexGT's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 23 hours ago
Joined: 06/07/2012 - 17:39
Posts: 4654
Location: Texas

Old Fenix TK22 had a horrible greenish tint, I replaced it immediately…

will34
will34's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 11 hours ago
Joined: 12/18/2012 - 00:12
Posts: 4240

Worst tint:

Fenix PD32vn with “PDTn” which costs extra $$ and supossed to provide better tint after dedome… how do I say it… the tint was green! It made you nauseous without need for strobe. Luckily my first and last Vn light.

Nowadays Vn fanboys still love these super green dedomed tint lights despite the availability of HI emitters.

Honorable mention:

Armytek wizard v3 XHP50… the “CW” tint is like 4500K

It’s not neutral nor warm, just yellow. But because it’s not greenish, it is somewhat usable.

Terry Oregon
Terry Oregon's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 hours 40 min ago
Joined: 10/21/2017 - 17:03
Posts: 627
Location: Grants Pass Oregon

How about multiple tints, and for good measure, horrible streaks.  This is a cheap work light, like the one here.

 

 

.

 

 

My reviews: , My personal collection of lights LINK,  J5 Tactical V1 Pro review LINK,  Thirteen Optical Sensors review LINKZebralight SC700d review LINK,  Ray-O-Vac Super Power Sportsman review LINK,  Convoy S2+ color combos LINK,  How To flash D4V2 LINK,  Convoy S21A LINK

djozz
djozz's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 38 min ago
Joined: 09/07/2012 - 17:04
Posts: 18318
Location: Amsterdam

One of the worst tints I met was when investigating high CRI leds, still thinking, being used to Nichia, that high CRI at least provides good tint. Well, the 4000K 92CRI 2nd gen. Oslon Square proved otherwise, it had a terrible greenish tint.
__________________

….while knowing better, I tried to do a tint shot of 5 flashlights with different 4000K leds, to show how bad that high CRI Square is . In reality, 4 out of 5 are pretty close in tint, a agreeable balanced brownish warm/neutral, only the above mentioned Oslon Square is ugly greenish. When photographed however, it looks dramatically different, a rainbow of tints and the Square did not look half that bad! I did choose the white balance that resembled what I saw best, but it is hopeless:

Left to right:
*BLF-A6 (5A tint Cree XP-L),
*Nitecore EC21 (Nichia 219C sm4070e R9050)
*Jaxman E2L (Lumileds Luxeon V 4000K)
*Luckysun mini20 (Osram Oslon Square 2nd 4000K 92CRI)
*Jaxman E2L (Nichia 219B sw403 R9080)

Conclusion once more: do not show tint shots, they are nonsense.

tehfrr
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 11/07/2017 - 16:17
Posts: 4
Location: USA

Thrunite TN12 warm white.

It has decent output, but was terrible for photography. Introduced a greenish-yellow tint into my photos, which then also brought in a lot of purple while trying to fix it during post-processing. Id rather use my $20 cool white Walmart zoomie than that thing. Id have already swapped out the LED, but the Nichia 219C on a 16mm MCPCB I bought is too big.

jon_slider
jon_slider's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 26 min ago
Joined: 09/08/2015 - 12:20
Posts: 6771
Location: Central North America

djozz wrote:
Conclusion once more: do not show tint shots, they are nonsense.

I think your photo is very useful, it shows how the Nichias are pink, and the neutrals are yellow

the problem getting the green of the oslon to show, is possibly due to the lumen level being too low, but overall, I really like your photo.. probably because Im used to looking at beam shots, and I recognize that pink nichias have very good red color rendering, such as when looking at things with red in them, like the palm of my hand. The low cri LEDs make my hand look dead, and make red things look brown. That is why I never felt a neutral white low cri LED could compete with a neutral white High CRI nichia. Ive tried Cree high CRI, and it tends to have a lot more Green in it than my nichias.

I don’t love green.

One of the worst LEDs for excess green Imo besides the XP-L and XM-L2, is the XP-G3. I have an XPG3 that has a purple center and green corona. this pic looks like the same colors I see, except mine are not in a line.

Terry Oregon wrote:

Bear in mind Im a total tint and CRI, snob, and my favorite LED is the sw45 9080 Nichia 219b. I even find the 219c leds objectionably yellow/green, compared to some of the best N219b, that look pink in a photo.

a note about tint perception
When I use my lights in full dark adapted situations, I notice green a lot more than if I use a light during the day. I think that is because there is a lot of green in sunlight, so a flashlight making green blends in. Also, in sunlight, there is plenty of Red Light, so the lack of red in a low cri light is not that important during the day, when there is ambient sunlight combining with the flashlight beam, such as when an auto mechanic is working outdoors during the day.

different color and tints work differently when fully dark adapted, than when adapted to cooler color temperatures.

so someone whose job is to drive a service vehicle to a job site, on a sunny day, and then use a flashlight to illuminate shadows in a basement, will tolerate low CRI and large amounts of green tint, better, than someone camping in a dark area with no ambient light, or waking up in a dark house to go to the bathroom, or other settings where the brain is not adapted to sunlight.

mrheosuper
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 5 months ago
Joined: 09/30/2016 - 12:44
Posts: 1515
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

Olight x7 CW, horrible Green, green everywhere

Forgot my pen

Rusty Joe
Rusty Joe's picture
Offline
Last seen: 14 hours 39 min ago
Joined: 07/24/2011 - 00:22
Posts: 3906
Location: Houston, TX

P60 P1 host with XPG3-S3 emitter. makes a brown-green and purplish-blue beam.

Although, I have gotten used to it.

niraya
niraya's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 10 months ago
Joined: 09/07/2012 - 03:23
Posts: 126
Location: EU

Reading the above I see that most people dislike* green and yellow* tints. Why is that?

I personally can’t stand any purple and blue-magenta shades, but yellow or green tints looks fine, not unpleasant to me.
Is there some reason explaining why it is green and yellow tints that irritates so many people here? Question

teacher
teacher's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 4 months ago
Joined: 02/23/2016 - 19:04
Posts: 9596
Location: NE & SW Alabama

4SEVENS Malestrom / Pea green / Got it for $45 at Blade Show 2014 from David Chow / Brand new in box. So I can live with it. Wink

You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant 

 .................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................

       Texas Lumens Flashlights / M4D M4X Deals : sign up - save $$$$  

         Rudeness Level _ mΩ _ {width:70%} _ LightWiki _ LED Tint Chart  

      Xlamp size chart _ BatteryU _ Flashaholic? Need Professional Help???            TheOriginal _ TAB _ LightSearch _ BatterySearch _ 14500's _ DiCal 

 

                                             

Rusty Joe
Rusty Joe's picture
Offline
Last seen: 14 hours 39 min ago
Joined: 07/24/2011 - 00:22
Posts: 3906
Location: Houston, TX

This forum needs diversity training.

Rusty Joe
Rusty Joe's picture
Offline
Last seen: 14 hours 39 min ago
Joined: 07/24/2011 - 00:22
Posts: 3906
Location: Houston, TX

lol

NeutralFan
NeutralFan's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 17 hours ago
Joined: 03/20/2014 - 19:22
Posts: 2071
Location: Wisconsin, USA

The “worse” tint of my good flashlights is on my neutral white Sunwayman D40A. Although at the time when I got it, I liked it much better than its cool white counterpart that I got weeks before. Then I got another neutral white flashlight and it blew the tint away. In comparison, the tint on the D40A looks a little green. By itself it looks fine and still does today, but it doesn’t look as good as my other neutral white flashlights. The cool white D40A looks great compared to the cheapo blueish tint flashlights that have been acquired over the years.

Edited since I just did a comparison and the D40A is not as bad as I remembered. Facepalm

I’d rather use my flashlight around the house than turn on the lights.

donnybrook
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 1 month ago
Joined: 01/19/2018 - 21:09
Posts: 9
Location: Somewhere in the middle of the US of A

Worst tint of all my lights is Fenix E01. Why Fenix chose to spoil an otherwise wonderful light by using this blue purple tint escapes me.

everydaysurvivalgear
everydaysurvivalgear's picture
Online
Last seen: 13 min 24 sec ago
Joined: 07/31/2015 - 10:25
Posts: 3826
Location: sydney australia (GMT+10)

Any under-powered CW XPG2 horrid blue tint. As you apply more power the tint shifts to a normal CW tint.

Boaz
Boaz's picture
Online
Last seen: 6 min 25 sec ago
Joined: 11/07/2010 - 09:31
Posts: 8012
Location: Birthplace of Aviation

U torch UT-01

I bought seven … one is nice, another is acceptable and five ought to be sent back …never mind any possible driver issues . Five funky, foul, green, garbage emitters.

                 υμεις εστε το φως του κοσμου ου δυναται πολις κρυβηναι επανω ορους κειμενη

                            Dc-fix diffuser film  >…  http://budgetlightforum.com/node/42208

jon_slider
jon_slider's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 26 min ago
Joined: 09/08/2015 - 12:20
Posts: 6771
Location: Central North America

niraya wrote:
I personally can’t stand any purple and blue-magenta shades

Is there some reason explaining why it is green and yellow tints that irritates so many people here? Question

I hate purple and blue-magenta too, but most of my lights don’t have that particular tint
I think Yellow/Green are more typical tints than purple and blue, but they are all equally bad, once you know they are there, which requires comparing beams.

I have heard of one other person that seems to be immune to hating green tint.. maybe some people have fewer green receptors? LOL

Lightbringer
Lightbringer's picture
Online
Last seen: 7 min 13 sec ago
Joined: 08/30/2016 - 14:12
Posts: 17764
Location: nyc
niraya wrote:
Is there some reason explaining why it is green and yellow tints that irritates so many people here? Question

Any tint that’s significantly off the BBL is generally pretty bad. On the BBL, it’s fairly balanced, whether the CT is cool, neutral, or warm. It’s probably what we’re hardwired to accept as “good” lighting, from a candle all the way up to the sun.

But off the BBL is seen as unnatural light, filtered and not naturally occurring. Green just makes people look sick, and viewing things in that light gives everything a sickly cast.

When I first shined my first F1 at a multicolored carpet at work, my reaction was “Ewww!”. It was just… off. Everything looked sickly yellow-green under that light, including a 100% artificial carpet!

Overly yellow (as opposed to warm) is just as bad. Warm has a decent red content, and is not simply yellow. There’s an overall balance of red and yellow and green and blue in warm-white light. Something that’s just strongly yellow is a sickly tint, too.

You have to look at the whole spectrum of light, not just the “color” ascribed to it.

A sodium light is almost monochromatic yellow, and things look pretty disgusting under that light, yet a very warm light, say 2000K, some objects can look almost as yellow, but has enough content outside that to make things look… warm.

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

AlexGT
AlexGT's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 23 hours ago
Joined: 06/07/2012 - 17:39
Posts: 4654
Location: Texas

I forgot to mention the first surefire led head the KL1 it had a horrible pink / purple tint on it!!! Sick

mrheosuper
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 5 months ago
Joined: 09/30/2016 - 12:44
Posts: 1515
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

5700k 90+ CRI is the worst to me
4500k is perfect, under or above that i will consider it “Unreal”

Forgot my pen

aginthelaw
aginthelaw's picture
Offline
Last seen: 19 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 09/30/2014 - 21:31
Posts: 1193
Location: noo joisey

niraya wrote:
Reading the above I see that most people dislike* green and yellow* tints. Why is that?

I personally can’t stand any purple and blue-magenta shades, but yellow or green tints looks fine, not unpleasant to me.
Is there some reason explaining why it is green and yellow tints that irritates so many people here? Question

it’s funny. i’m looking for the same answer. i hate the yellow/green tints. but i love my warm armytek wizard. hated the green in my olight m2x(?} one of the first ones with that factory dedomed led. i gave it away. my hlaaa has a bluish tint, but i still have it along with my h53c headlamp. i thought zebralights were top quality, but the posts about tint lottery makes me wish it was easily modded. i’d replace that led in a heartbeat

never fear shadows…it means a light shines nearby

WalkIntoTheLight
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 12/05/2015 - 10:26
Posts: 2231
Location: Canada
ERTD wrote:
When it comes to unreal & uncomfortable, I have an old AA Zebra Light flood XML cool white (with that green glowing reflector) That is the worse tint I ever had. I don’t even want to use that has an emergency light. I keep it has a bicycle signaling flashing light.

Wow! That one is awful. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a green that bad, unless your camera is hugely exaggerating it.

I have the same model and tint of Zebralight, and while it’s a little green in the corona, it’s not bad for a cool white.

aginthelaw wrote:
i thought zebralights were top quality, but the posts about tint lottery makes me wish it was easily modded. i’d replace that led in a heartbeat

I think the tint lottery was a lot worse in the past. Zebralight did have some issues with the bins they were ordering a few years ago. I think they’ve mostly corrected that in the past couple of years, though there’s always a lottery with any mass-produced light. My most recent Zebralight (SC600w MkIV HI) has a very nice warmish tint, close to a 4000K Nichia 219.

mrheosuper
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 5 months ago
Joined: 09/30/2016 - 12:44
Posts: 1515
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

i agree 5000K is the “real” light( someone measured daylight, it’s 5000K), but i’m more comfotable with 4500k than 5700k

Forgot my pen

WalkIntoTheLight
Offline
Last seen: 9 months 1 week ago
Joined: 12/05/2015 - 10:26
Posts: 2231
Location: Canada
mrheosuper wrote:
i agree 5000K is the “real” light( someone measured daylight, it’s 5000K), but i’m more comfotable with 4500k than 5700k

It depends on what time you measure the daylight. Early morning and evening, it’s close to 4000K or even warmer. At noon, it’s closer to 5500K.

Pulsar
Pulsar's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 07/29/2011 - 00:41
Posts: 5848
Location: Maine

Boaz wrote:
U torch UT-01 I bought seven … one is nice, another is acceptable and five ought to be sent back …never mind any possible driver issues . Five funky, foul, green, garbage emitters.
I came close to buying 3-4 of those, glad I found a couple threads on them and changed my mind.

Pages