I think that we don’t need this to be a ridiculous pocket blaster; the d4 has that covered, and with its larger thermal mass and being a quad vs a triple, there’s just no chance for competition. But this one could, given that it will have nicer firmware in a few ways, be a more elegant option that may heat up incredibly fast on turbo, but regulate its temperature better than the first generations of such things so that it’s still pretty smooth in terms of stepping down and crucially up. That’s why I’d kind of like a r9050 219c in this one (maybe 4000k), with the xpl hi 3d also being a reasonable option apart from the price increase.
I’m not a fan of the 219C. I have a D4 with that and don’t like it. Produces just as much heat as XPL HI, while producing far less light.
My first group buy purchase, so hope I’m following protocol here…
1 please!
My first group buy purchase, so hope I’m following protocol here…
1 please!
Yeah, definitely no point in using the 219c. Just the heat to light ratio should disqualify it for this light application.
Well, that’s the price of CRI and a tint that doesn’t change to purple near the edges. I don’t like the tint of the 219c’s in my d4 as much as I do the middle of the spot from 3d xpl’s; the 5000k is actually a bit over that cct instead of under; but it’s nice enough otherwise and plenty bright. I’ve got the q8 with the 3d xpl’s and vtc6’s and I like them well enough, but I only run a sanyo ga in my d4. I can see it will be hard to pick one option…
We need a silver version too!
Also put my vote down for a nichia emitter
Hmm… 50 grams was the weight I heard for this one; that amount of silver is about $30… interesting.
There is also a blink in the middle at highest regulation level (I think). So, yes, people that don’t know what it is think they have a malfunctioning light. I have seen a few complaints on FB groups.
No, this isn’t designed for muggles, but it might be given to them and/or eventually sold to the general public at which point Lumintop might get a flood of complaints for an actual feature thinking the light is a POS. I would hate to sour Lumintop’s experience with BLF. (Sure, they could turn that off for the public version, but would they?)
My 2¢
I stick by my A, D, and non-committal C vote. 
I think this will be a great pocket edc. and am looking forward to the completed product.
How about making the blinks at 1x7135 and 8x7135 configurable? Maybe the default is no blinks. But have a hidden configuration option that would let the end-user turn on the blinks if desired.
That way you get the best of both worlds: Smooth interface for muggles, with the option to go to a more detailed interface for flashaholics.
The Q8 and GT only have the faint blinks at the top and bottom.
Hi guys - please add me to the list for one. Thx!
please add me to list NW
I first got a few flashlights with xm-l2, xp-g2 and xp-l, and after I got my first 219C emitters I’m baffled at how someone wouldn’t like the tint and quality of the beam. I understand one not wanting to trade output for CRI, but not liking it? Preposterous! 
Just out of curiosity, how difficult would it be to make it ramp down smoothly rather than distinct step downs when it starts to get too hot? Just a random thought that occurred to me, but I thought it might be one of those subtle differences that bumps up the impression of a high quality piece. I know its something that I would like to see on my D4 at least.
This may have been suggested or mentioned before; apologies if it has, Ive not yet had a chance to read through all the posts.
The modern firmware revisions that would be used in this light have seen some work, and will not only ramp down smoother (maybe not perfect; I don’t remember how it’d been going), but also ramp back up just as well if you cool it off by for instance going outside into colder air, or by putting water on it. Though this light won’t have much metal to absorb the heat, so it will not last very long before it has to step down, it should be much better at managing heat and brightness.
I am interested in 2 please…
I own a bunch of 4000k to 5000k 219c and 219b flashlights. Although they have the highest CRI, their tint is nowhere near as beautiful as the perfect XP-L HI 4000k 5D tint, which contains no yellow/green at all. Just a beautiful neutral with a slight hint of rosiness.
But I think XPG3 R5/R6 bin would be more efficient because the XP-L HI 5D tint only goes up to V2 bin. So the XPG3 would still be the ideal emitter for this light.
The specific weight of silver is about 4 times the specific weight of aluminum. So, if you want your silver light to be as big as your aluminum light, you need 200 grams of it. Well, make that 150-160 gram. Because the reflector, lens, led-board, driver and switch are the same.
Hold on, I don’t remember the driver circuitry being that advanced. Maybe ToyKeeper can clarify.