next monday placing an order in my board fab
next monday placing an order in my board fab
That calculation is not correct, correct calculation is:
Linear drive efficiency with fresh battery: n1=Vf/Umax=3/4.2=71.43%
Linear drive efficiency with empty battery: n2=Vf/Umin=3/3=~100%
Because discharge curve for typ. li-ions is fairly linear. no integration over time is needed to get average efficiency, it's simply average of n1 and n2 calculated above.
So, average efficiency of linear driver when driving LED with Vf=3V from 4.2V down to 3V is (71.43+100)/2=85,71%, and that means overall flashlight efficiency is 124lm/W*85,71%/100= 106,3lm/W.
Not as good as 95% efficient buck driver, but not that bad as some think. 1.25A is relatively low current these days,at higher currents efficiency of buck driver becomes similar to linear driver,but due to much higher internal resistances, buck driver will be in "out of regulation mode" sooner than linear driver, so there is almost no advantage at high current 1S setups.
That calculation is not correct, correct calculation is:
Linear drive efficiency with fresh battery: n1=Vf/Umax=3/4.2=71.43%
Linear drive efficiency with empty battery: n2=Vf/Umin=3/3=~100%
Because discharge curve for typ. li-ions is fairly linear. no integration over time is needed to get average efficiency, it's simply average of n1 and n2 calculated above.
So, average efficiency of linear driver when driving LED with Vf=3V from 4.2V down to 3V is (71.43+100)/2=85,71%, and that means overall flashlight efficiency is 124lm/W*85,71%/100= 106,3lm/W.
Not as good as 95% efficient buck driver, but not that bad as some think. 1.25A is relatively low current these days,at higher currents efficiency of buck driver becomes similar to linear driver,but due to much higher internal resistances, buck driver will be in "out of regulation mode" sooner than linear driver, so there is almost no advantage at high current 1S setups.
Let's @#$%ing face it: bearing in mind implied contact losses (and even if don't) the useful voltage window of li-ion cells overlaps operational emitter voltage windows. A multi-purpose 1S/1S driver should be able to accept input voltages from 2.5V, offering regulated output up to at least 3.8V. This means buck and boost.
And another thing: PWM is bad. Since little to no one complains, there's no @#$%ing care about. The usual high frequency (4+KHz) switching of 7135's is the last straw, it causes lower efficiency and much earlier loss of regulation. A proper LC filter at the output of linear regulators can fix these issues, providing proper stable DC to the emitter and doing away with the need to switch on/off faster than our poor 7135s can tolerate. This means an inductor in series with the emitter is required. Can someone bear with me and do some inductor calculations for 1 to 2KHz 7135 PWM frequency? Is this too low frequency to smooth out?
Cheers :-)
I did something wrong, your calculations look correct. Yes, at higher current the difference would be lower.
Either way, when I see that a different driver enables 5% higher sustained performance and 5-10% better runtime (depending on mode), I stop seeing the less efficient one as a top choice.
Let’s @#$%ing face it: bearing in mind implied contact losses (and even if don’t) the useful voltage window of li-ion cells overlaps operational emitter voltage windows. A multi-purpose 1S/1S driver should be able to accept input voltages from 2.5V, offering regulated output up to at least 3.8V. This means buck and boost.
Agree, buck-boost would be even more awesome.
Shocki, Lexel, have you considered porting support for the external thermal sensor from GXB172?
It is possible to add external thermal support, but someone needs to write the firmware for it.
For those still waiting for the 17mm boost driver, I’m still working on it. It will look pretty similar to the one made by loneoceans.
But I still have problems with it, and need to solve them.
Looking for one side driver with fet only and original nanjg 105 firmware (stars option)
hello
where i can buy 12v booster driver to install xhp35 in my convoy s2+ ?
it is possible to install xhp35 in s2+ in any way ? may be 20mm it is possible to “fit” ?
Why do you want to install an XHP35 inside of an S2 anyway?
just for fun
i love flashlights and convoy s2+
With the current MLCC shortage, I can’t get the capacitors that I want for the boost driver, they’re all sold out. I will order from mouser soon though, and get the best capacitors they currently have.
it is possible to install xhp35 in s2+ in any way ? may be 20mm it is possible to “fit” ?
I think a user (Jensen) here managed to get either the H1-A or H2-C driver from into an s2+ by somehow mounting it behind/under the pill and, perhaps, grinding down the PCB to get it to fit.
H1-A is, I think, 20mm and boosts to 6v. H2-C is 22mm and boosts to 12v. I think, but I’m not sure, that the H1-A can be modded to higher compliance voltages.
I think I remember something like that, but all I could come up with a quick search was him building an S2+ into a MT-G2 with a H1-A. But yeah, he mounted the driver behind the pill instead of in it:
I have a few other H1-A tests I want to run, but I’m waiting for more drivers, the 3 I had are all in lights now. 1st up is the light engine I made for the new Desert Tan S2+ when I get it. MTG2 M0 4000K at 3.5A. In a Green S2+ for a test bed. Really cool to have an MTG2 on a single cell in an S2+. Pill is a stock pill with the driver pocket machined out. Reflector is a stock reflector with the emitter opening expanded by hand using a hobby knife. [image] [image] [image] Next up is my new X…
“BOOSTING” this thread to the top again in hopes of some life.
Remember that time we had 3-4 different people concurrently working on boost drivers then nothing panned out from any of them?
Good times :sunglasses:
LOL, both of the boost drivers are still in the works, just on hold at the moment. Schoki is waiting for some components to get in stock at Muser last I heard and LoneOceans just got busy with life but still plans to do more work on it when he gets more time.
I still have a box for of components for prototyping whenever another prototype design is ready.
I think Lexel and Richard (MtnE) also had something in the works. Ah well whats another 6 months at this point
I think Lexel and Richard (MtnE) also had something in the works. Ah well whats another 6 months at this point
Lexel was using Schoki’s design.
Interesting, I was not aware Richard was working on another boost driver.