If possible still I would love to buy one!
Sadly the GB is closed but there are some used lights being sold in the for sale section and online if you look around.
Good to see this project is moving again and lights still getting received.
Neal welcome back and thank you for everything!
Yes, Neal has been very responsive. I think he just got burned out with all the abuse people were sending his way for things outside of his control. Which is understandable.
While he has a direct line of contact and the native language bonus with lumintop, he is still a messenger for many things.
There was just a general breakdown of communication and everything, the CNY was the final straw it seems and everything kind of crumbled for a time.
We are putting the pieces back together more and more every day.
I once again want to applaud Lumintop and Neal for sticking this out. Even after all this hassle and lumintop knowing they could just ditch the GB and sell the lights at full retail for real profits, they are still committed to finishing this GB.
Yes, I am discussing the selling lights outside of the GB with them, that issue is still in the works. I will just say I can’t entirely blame them for what they are doing, but am not happy at all with how they were doing it.
First I wish say “thank you” to Neal, Lumintop and the team for all the work.
Second…no lights sent this week? :cry:
No, this week they were out of the lenses, they are supposed to get 1000 more lenses by the end of next week.
Wait what, so i have to wait at least 1 month to have this light in my hand?
Oh my godness
So I should expect it to be sent about two weeks from now…ok, I can wait…
Relax - I’m Waiting four months soon.
I can ask %back for using my money by LM or someone.
Sorry, the production delays are still in effect, that never went away. There were simply more orders then they thought that had not been shipped yet.
The reflectors are still the limiting factor, it just so happens that this week the lenses were also used up.
TA i’ve filled the survey as soon as it was available a few weeks back but seeing as we finally have some communication with Neal do you think I should wait a little longer for a response or just sent him a pm and redo the survey ?
No need to redo the survey. It is just taking time to sort through it all. We still need to organize the survey for lumintop to deal with some of the issues.
I would give it a few more days and see what happens first (excluding the weekend when I don’t expect much to happen).
I only get a few hours each night where both mine and China’s waking hours overlap to really work on stuff.
Alright I’ll just wait a few more days and see how things are going, thanks a lot for the quick reply 
This BLF GT saga is almost over for me.
Few days back i opened paypal case with request for refund since my light was not sent with the last 50 or so lights.
Today Neal refunded me the second payment…
…but i have no way of getting back my money from the initial deposit, 17 or so dollars. So what is my option here? I do not plan on giving MY money to some random guy/company just because they where unable to deliver what was promised.
Any advice?
Simply request a refund from Neal, I am sure he will give it.
Although most likely not until his account has been fixed. Right now he can only accept payments and send refunds (your deposit payment is too old for a refund to be sent, he will have to send you a new payment). He can not transfer any funds or buy anything with his account besides this (fairly common practice for paypal).
It could take a little while for his account to be sorted out, paypal is not known for being quick in these situations.
The problem here is that my Paypal account is limited to only sending payments. I can not receive money on it. The only way i can get money back is via the Paypal refund option.
But as we know the first payment is not eligible for refund via the Paypal system anymore. That is the major issue here.
What?
How can you not receive payments through paypal…
TA do You know how many survey ware send to Neal and how many are solved now?
Because accounts from Macedonia and few other countries as well are limited. The only option paypal gives us is paying for merchandise and that is all. We don’t even have F&F option for sending money.
There are way to get unlimited accounts with fake address and stuff but i am pretty sure that it is not legal to do it that way.
Hmm, that is problem and I don’t see a viable solution for it. I know for experience it is impossible to send a refund for a payment this old.
Why can’t you accept payments?
Edit: just saw your reply above. Hmm, I really don’t know how that can be solved. Let me know if you think of anything.