[PART 2] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Closed, but Public sales open!

You are not the first person to describe the postal system as such. Lol

Not only the postal system in this case Jason :wink:

I group the Customs Dept in with the “postal system”.

Once it leaves Lumintop, it is out of LT and Neal’s hands. We are at the mercy of the postal system.

How do you know he has a lot? Maybe he has a few in stock and high order quantity will need to be shipped from Lumintop directly.

Let’s have a conspiracy theory. If he can get big customer for example military to buy 100 GT at USD650 per piece, Lumintop should serve that order first. I personally will look down Lumintop if they don’t serve that order first. I hope Lumintop earn more money outside this GB or any future GB, so that Lumintop becomes long term GB partner producing high quality flashlight. Smart partner is better than stupid partner.

Neal asked me about the method of delivery on March 21, and after that again silence :frowning:

UPD Neal answered me)

Days ago I found this seller based in South Africa, I think it is the same, who says he has 6 items

https://torchsa.com/other-flashlights/304-other-flashlights-torchsa-blf-gt-aka-giggles-kit-2000-lumens-2000m-throwrechargeable.html

There are also no batteries, 6 items

https://torchsa.com/other-flashlights/303-other-flashlights-torchsa-blf-gt-aka-giggles-2000-lumens-2000m-throw.html
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Lumintop sold many GT anywhere, but didn’t perform GB obligations. Nice.

No need for paypal claim. Contact Neal first.

Just so you know, in my years shipping internationally I have been surprised more time then you would think when a package would take 60 days or more to clear customs. I also had a few cases where the package just disappeared for over 3-4 months and then suddenly turned up on my doorstep one day.

They ran out of the AR glass lenses, they have not been able to ship any lights due to this. They are supposed to get 1000 lenses late next week. So shipments should start again after that.

Do you all think we could just DROP the chatter about the few lights sold outside the GB by LT??

It is serving no purpose at all.

Go back and read what TA has said about it numerous times……

  • Believe it.
  • Don’t believe it.

But quit talking about it. It is done & water under the bridge… talking about it will not change one thing.

If you don’t like it, I understand that. :+1:

If you just can’t live with it or let it go, ask for a refund & be done. :+1: :+1:

Either way…. this constant chatter about it is getting old…. :beer:

For the record, lumintop has been very clear that they will be completing the GB, even though they would make a lot more money selling the light publicly.

I had a long conversation with several people about the profit / loss on the GB so far and I am now quite sure I am getting the truth.

They have actually lost money at this point on the GB, a fair amount actually. And if all goes well by the time the GB is over the best they are hoping for is to just break even.

The costs on everything have been much higher then they expected. They never guessed how much more a large light like this would cost.

So the reason they have been selling some publicly is to try to make a profit on the GT before the competing lights that are being made go to market.

Now like I said before, I can understand why they are doing this, I also want them to turn a profit on the light. If they loose money that is not good for anyone. I do not approve in any way how they were doing it though, the underhanded messages have to stop.

We are discussing options moving forward and I will update ya’ll as I know more but rest assured that lumintop has every intention of completing this GB.

To be clear, officially the GB just guaranteed a cheaper price, when we started this it was not guaranteed first access. It was just assumed.

Which brings up another point, the retail price will be $325 after the GB with coupons possibly bringing it down to around $250 is what I am hearing. So that makes the $157 for the remaining GB buyers an even better deal.

I almost wished they would skip out on the rest of the GB, this entire ordeal has been a drain on my life for the last 6 months, I am so ready for it to be over. Not to worry, I am not going to leave but it sure is tempting sometimes.

Yes, that’s exactly what Neal wrote to me

+1

A package that had been given for lost, before the mandatory customs declaration, appeared at my door a little after a year

TA - I admire your perseverance and patience with this thread, issues and the whole GB. I would have quit at least 100 times if I were in your position.

“Speak with data and facts, or don’t speak at all.”

Just thought that quote was perfect for this thread, there would be many less posts if everyone kept to the facts, and less grief.

Carry on.

But if you take our money now, itt gives us more time to complain & threaten pay pal disputes:) (/sarcasm)

Hey TA, why can’t you tell Lumintop that they can go ahead and sell the GT for full profit and give the rest of those waiting on the list a code/coupon so they can get the thing for $157?

I live in Kuching and i never knew we had “BRUSSELS EUROPEAN MAIL CENTRE” in here… it surprised my actually why many GTs were sent to Kuching then transit to Euro…

I wanna get GT and forget it like a bad trip.
Good that comes too late is good as nothing.

That means you hace your GT? I I can assure the GT sent registered to Spain in the same day have arrived in 3 weeks for one and 6-7 weeks for other and definitely the Team,Neal or LT cannot do nothing to change that - at least we happy not having to pay other issues that would mean for some cases easily more then 100$ - hope everybody have more patience that usually needed, so everyone from the GB could get their piece ,i can tell you all,just like so3 many others,the waiting is worth it and even if things seem to not go to fast,there is somebody behind that is trying to do the best