Net total for me: (16 × 1.6)LH351D + (14 × 0.5)LH351B + (3 × 1)XP-G3 + shipping = $40.60 ≈ €32.82 with current ECB rate, is this right?
With regards to the PayPal rates if this path is taken, the seller rate as I see it is 3.4% + 0.35€. I guess you say “add 5%” to slightly overshoot because from the buyer’s side the actual fee would be a tiny bit above 4%, doesn’t it? Just for learning.
Cheers
I tried to understand PP fee once again and I see 3.9%+0.35€or 0.3$. (According the last payment it seems to be correct.)
About 351B. I’ll get them next week. So you could wait with payment. (The sum is correct)
Need some advice.
Same as Lightbringer here, outside paying online shops I’ve used PP exactly 2 times before for money transfer in 6 years…
AEDe wrote:
While sending by PP please use “To friends and family” (Commision fee is obout 5%)
I remind you 351D 1.6$/pcs for < 20pcs.
10 × 1.6$ per LED = 16$
plus 5$ shipping = 21$
plus 5% PP fee = 22.05$ EUR conversion => I can do that as well
.
But:
AEDe wrote:
After payment please write your name and address.
Where? I assume in a BLF PM?
When I write “10x Samsung LH351D BLF HarleyQuin” and my shipping address in the Paypal transaction, this does not really look like friends and family, does it?
Please avoid fully quoting lenghty posts, namely with nested quotes. Trim quotes down to the essential. Helps with neatness and legibility. Thanks.
The human mind, and its programming, is at the forefront of a particular battle of The Light vs evil dark forces. Nearly every human being on this beautiful planet “Earth” has some sort of negative mind programming in its mind. And you better take care of your mind programming, or someone else will in this wicked world.
Viruses DON'T cause diseases, they rather are a consequence of them. Read the book “Béchamp or Pasteur” by Ethel Hume for more information.
The simplest way is to choose “to friends and…”. I this case you write sum that I ‘ll get, and than pp will add commision fee.
P.s. fee is 3.9% not 2.9%.
Okay, updated the previous “worksheet”. Just wanted to make sure I was doing it right.
I was kinda warned off doing the f&f thing, because like ebay, they want their “cut”, and can get kinda testy if people try to end-run the system. No worries, I’ll eat the extra bit.
Basically, if I still wanna use PP for ordering online, I don’t want to get smited or cast out or something.
But like I said, don’t worry, I’ll eat the extra cost, as it’s only a coupla bux. Barely more’n the cost of 1 LED.
Mmm, also while I do not mean to bust any bubbles I must point out the $1.50/piece discount is only for units above the 20th one. Otherwise 20 pcs would cost (20 × $1.60) = $32, while 21 pcs would be (21 × $1.50) = $31.50; which certainly doesn't sounds very right, does it? 
This means the corrected and upwards of 20 pcs discounted amount for fellow Lightbringer is: (20 × $1.60) + (5 × $1.50) = $39.50, which nets a $0.50 discount total.
Had to say in behalf of righteousness, but I can understand that since AEDe said nothing in this regard this cannot hold validity without his word (this means Lightbringer can still have his $2 cookie).
On the other hand, with regard's to PayPal fees: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees#transfers (I had to change my system language and clear some cookies for me to reach that page in english, fLIck1ng age of location aware and language auto selection systems, stinks imho)
After cheching that mess out, I understand AEDe's confusion. Now that I notice, I should say that I use a bank account to fund my PayPal balance, but I do not mean to add more confusion here so I'll abide to the general fee consensus and let AEDe take a little tip. Part of this “screw-up” is due to PayPal listing the fee which drags of received amounts. From the sender's side it would be a lot easier to see how much to add, but because of this some math is needed. Given xnet as the net amount of money received by AEDe and xgross the adjusted gross amount to transfer:
Well, if any maven thinks this deserves any further correction please say so.
Cheers
Original post date: Thu, 04/19/2018 - 21:37. Edited for a tiny syntax correction.
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Please avoid fully quoting lenghty posts, namely with nested quotes. Trim quotes down to the essential. Helps with neatness and legibility. Thanks.
The human mind, and its programming, is at the forefront of a particular battle of The Light vs evil dark forces. Nearly every human being on this beautiful planet “Earth” has some sort of negative mind programming in its mind. And you better take care of your mind programming, or someone else will in this wicked world.
Viruses DON'T cause diseases, they rather are a consequence of them. Read the book “Béchamp or Pasteur” by Ethel Hume for more information.
Now you know why I never even thought about becoming an accountant…
Barkuti wrote:
Mmm, also while I do not mean to bust any bubbles I must point out the $1.50/piece discount is only for units above the 20th one. Otherwise 20 pcs would cost (20 × $1.60) = $32, while 21 pcs would be (21 × $1.50) = $31.50; which certainly doesn’t sounds very right, does it? 
Not really. Lots of places I dealt with had breakdowns of, say, 1-10, 11-25, 26-50, etc. And absolutely, there’d be this never-never land where getting, say, 24 or even 23 items would be more expensive than getting 25 with the new breakdown.
Damn, can’t recall their name, but one place that sold thermostats (small bimetallic doodads, not wall-mounted ones; Eleco, Elenco, something like that) had this rather retarded breakdown of 11bux each for 1-2, 7bux for 3-5, and so on, ‘til you started to get to the more realistic prices of 50¢ each for 1000+.
And no, it wasn’t to cover the cost of shipping, as shipping was extra. They just did that to dissuade “small” customers.
Barkuti wrote:
Well, if any maven thinks this deserves any further correction please say so.
I think I’ll just leave it as, “Hey AEDe, lemme know how much I owe ya…” and save myself the headache.
Absolute worst case, it’s just, “Aw, screw it, I’ll just use 219Bs…” if things get too crazy. I make it my life’s goal to avoid headaches. It’s a good philosophy, trust me.
If this is anything like the tracked and registered mail I’ve got from Croatia (LED4Power) it will require a signature. After you miss it you can sign for it to be left or picked up at the post office or re-delivered but I don’t think there is a way to “sign” for it in advance with USPS.
Just a probable heads up for people.
And back to being off topic:
The paypal method you choose adds money for buyer protection and their cut. If you choose F&F they still take their cut but it comes from from the person sending the payment and includes no protection. If you choose goods some of it comes from the seller’s cut I believe. It’s oversimplifying it but it is what it is. This all excludes credit card fees as well.
The simplest way is to choose “to friends and…”. I this case you write sum that I ‘ll get, and than pp will add commision fee.
P.s. fee is 3.9% not 2.9%.
Okay, updated the previous “worksheet”. Just wanted to make sure I was doing it right.
I was kinda warned off doing the f&f thing, because like ebay, they want their “cut”, and can get kinda testy if people try to end-run the system. No worries, I’ll eat the extra bit.
Basically, if I still wanna use PP for ordering online, I don’t want to get smited or cast out or something.
But like I said, don’t worry, I’ll eat the extra cost, as it’s only a coupla bux. Barely more’n the cost of 1 LED.
Don’t worry.I understood you don’t want use “ f&f”) I’ll write how much you should send .
I tried to understand PP fee once again and I see 3.9%+0.35€or 0.3$. (According the last payment it seems to be correct.)
About 351B. I’ll get them next week. So you could wait with payment. (The sum is correct)
Need some advice.
Same as Lightbringer here, outside paying online shops I’ve used PP exactly 2 times before for money transfer in 6 years…
10 × 1.6$ per LED = 16$
plus 5$ shipping = 21$
plus 5% PP fee = 22.05$
EUR conversion => I can do that as well
.
But:
Where? I assume in a BLF PM?When I write “10x Samsung LH351D BLF HarleyQuin” and my shipping address in the Paypal transaction, this does not really look like friends and family, does it? I did not get a PM.
Oshpark Boards:
HQ ProgKey: Universal Driver Programming Key . Boost: HQ 15mm/17mm programmable boost driver with ATtiny13A
46mm Triple-Channel: BLF SRK FET v3 . 17mm Linear: HQ10D / HQ4D / HQ4S . Contact Boards: 22/24/26mm
Have the GB started ?, my triple C8 is waiting for this led
Forgot my pen
If it wouldn’t be too much trouble, could I add some of the Bs to my order? Maybe 12 to play with…
Tnx!
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It is not trouble at all but I’ll get 351B next week.
No rush, tnx!
Still got so much on my to-do list, it’s not even funny.
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PM are sent to all who buy 351D only. 351B will arrive next week.
Paypal sent, PM sent.
Thank you for your effort in this, much appreciated!
Oshpark Boards:
HQ ProgKey: Universal Driver Programming Key . Boost: HQ 15mm/17mm programmable boost driver with ATtiny13A
46mm Triple-Channel: BLF SRK FET v3 . 17mm Linear: HQ10D / HQ4D / HQ4S . Contact Boards: 22/24/26mm
+1
my collection and my modding projekts
120pcs of 351B are ordered. 60pcs of them are still available.
(0.5$/pcs , max 1.5A, 3000K CRI>90 R9~70)
I’ll take 10
Need Nichia 219b r9080 Emitters? (｡◕‿◕｡)
“The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.” John 1:5
I’ll take 6×351b 3000k too, as I sent you in the PM.
My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547
What plans does everyone have for the 351b? AA/AAA/keychain lights?
I want to make lamp based on 351B and this mcpcb
I hope it would be good light for home.
I plan to do a lantern BLF style.
I’m probably planning to build 2.
My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547
Mmmkay, add to my list: 4 × LH351B, 4 × XP-G3.
Worktable lighting.
Cheers
Please avoid fully quoting lenghty posts, namely with nested quotes. Trim quotes down to the essential. Helps with neatness and legibility. Thanks.
The human mind, and its programming, is at the forefront of a particular battle of The Light vs evil dark forces. Nearly every human being on this beautiful planet “Earth” has some sort of negative mind programming in its mind. And you better take care of your mind programming, or someone else will in this wicked world.
Viruses DON'T cause diseases, they rather are a consequence of them. Read the book “Béchamp or Pasteur” by Ethel Hume for more information.
Put me down for six 351B as well please.
I have only 3pcs xpg3.351B added.
if I can get 10 I would like to
I’ll take 10 of the 351b as well as the 6 LH351D’s…
as per PM
total=$19.69
thanks again for doing thisυμεις εστε το φως του κοσμου ου δυναται πολις κρυβηναι επανω ορους κειμενη
Dc-fix diffuser film >… http://budgetlightforum.com/node/42208
List updated
Okay, so somebody check my math. I haven’t done vector calculus in years…
Then there’s PP’s cut, which they say is
2.9%3.9% + 0.30. (Oh my God, my head hurts…)So that’s
1.411.89So allllll added up, that’d be
So… howbout a nice round number like 50.70?
That about cover it?
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The simplest way is to choose “to friends and…”. I this case you write sum that I ‘ll get, and than pp will add commision fee.
P.s. fee is 3.9% not 2.9%.
Okay, updated the previous “worksheet”. Just wanted to make sure I was doing it right.
I was kinda warned off doing the f&f thing, because like ebay, they want their “cut”, and can get kinda testy if people try to end-run the system. No worries, I’ll eat the extra bit.
Basically, if I still wanna use PP for ordering online, I don’t want to get smited or cast out or something.
But like I said, don’t worry, I’ll eat the extra cost, as it’s only a coupla bux. Barely more’n the cost of 1 LED.
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Mmm, also while I do not mean to bust any bubbles I must point out the $1.50/piece discount is only for units above the 20th one. Otherwise 20 pcs would cost (20 × $1.60) = $32, while 21 pcs would be (21 × $1.50) = $31.50; which certainly doesn't sounds very right, does it? 
This means the corrected and upwards of 20 pcs discounted amount for fellow Lightbringer is: (20 × $1.60) + (5 × $1.50) = $39.50, which nets a $0.50 discount total.
Had to say in behalf of righteousness, but I can understand that since AEDe said nothing in this regard this cannot hold validity without his word (this means Lightbringer can still have his $2
cookie).
On the other hand, with regard's to PayPal fees: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees#transfers
(I had to change my system language and clear some cookies for me to reach that page in english, fLIck1ng age of location aware and language auto selection systems, stinks imho)
After cheching that mess out, I understand AEDe's
confusion.
Now that I notice, I should say that I use a bank account to fund my PayPal balance, but I do not mean to add more confusion here so I'll abide to the general fee consensus and let AEDe take a little tip.
Part of this “screw-up” is due to PayPal listing the fee which drags of received amounts. From the sender's side it would be a lot easier to see how much to add, but because of this some math is needed.
Given xnet as the net amount of money received by AEDe and xgross the adjusted gross amount to transfer:
xgross - (0.039xgross + 0.3) = xnet ⇒ 0.961xgross - 0.3 = xnet ⇒
xgross = (xnet + 0.3) / 0.961
OR
xgross = 1000/961(xnet + 0.3)
Well, if any maven thinks this deserves any further correction please say so.
Cheers
Original post date: Thu, 04/19/2018 - 21:37. Edited for a tiny syntax correction.
Please avoid fully quoting lenghty posts, namely with nested quotes. Trim quotes down to the essential. Helps with neatness and legibility. Thanks.
The human mind, and its programming, is at the forefront of a particular battle of The Light vs evil dark forces. Nearly every human being on this beautiful planet “Earth” has some sort of negative mind programming in its mind. And you better take care of your mind programming, or someone else will in this wicked world.
Viruses DON'T cause diseases, they rather are a consequence of them. Read the book “Béchamp or Pasteur” by Ethel Hume for more information.
Now you know why I never even thought about becoming an accountant…
Not really. Lots of places I dealt with had breakdowns of, say, 1-10, 11-25, 26-50, etc. And absolutely, there’d be this never-never land where getting, say, 24 or even 23 items would be more expensive than getting 25 with the new breakdown.
Damn, can’t recall their name, but one place that sold thermostats (small bimetallic doodads, not wall-mounted ones; Eleco, Elenco, something like that) had this rather retarded breakdown of 11bux each for 1-2, 7bux for 3-5, and so on, ‘til you started to get to the more realistic prices of 50¢ each for 1000+.
And no, it wasn’t to cover the cost of shipping, as shipping was extra. They just did that to dissuade “small” customers.
I think I’ll just leave it as, “Hey AEDe, lemme know how much I owe ya…” and save myself the headache.
Absolute worst case, it’s just, “Aw, screw it, I’ll just use 219Bs…” if things get too crazy. I make it my life’s goal to avoid headaches. It’s a good philosophy, trust me.
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Tried looking up the company, no joy. But lookit…
https://www.alliedelec.com/selco-ses-l250/70098740/?mkwid=syFJgk05j&pcri...
3 is 13.22 each.
Next breakdown is at 25, for 10.35 each!
So… hang on, gonna do cheap math here.
25 × 10.35 is 258.75.
So how many at 13.22 does that buy?
Only 19! (19.57something, assuming no Pentium Bug.)
So from 20 to 24 units, it’s more expensive, and would be actually cheaper to buy more units, 25, at the lower rate.
Happens all the time.
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Getting back on topic…
If this is anything like the tracked and registered mail I’ve got from Croatia (LED4Power) it will require a signature. After you miss it you can sign for it to be left or picked up at the post office or re-delivered but I don’t think there is a way to “sign” for it in advance with USPS.
Just a probable heads up for people.
And back to being off topic:
The paypal method you choose adds money for buyer protection and their cut. If you choose F&F they still take their cut but it comes from from the person sending the payment and includes no protection. If you choose goods some of it comes from the seller’s cut I believe. It’s oversimplifying it but it is what it is. This all excludes credit card fees as well.
Don’t worry.I understood you don’t want use “ f&f”) I’ll write how much you should send .
No worries. That link Barkuti posted explained a lot. f&f is free here intra-country, but from one country to another you get hit with the fee.
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