Proposal for a BLF defense flashlight

That sounds like a colorful scene!

You may as well install a motion sensing stereo system that plays Techno music at volume 11 with large subwoofers!

Agree on this.
It should fly under the radar and not attract unwanted attention.
Thick head/bezel and copious amounts of copper in head for durability and heft.
Grippy handle

A straight 2x 18650 tube light that would double as a baton might be useful as a defense tool as well as a reasonable flashlight .I think the baseball bat light is one of the dumber lights ever made apart from the bug zapper light .The bat light always seemed like a huge gimmick light .It has immediate humorous appeal but am doubting the thought that it’s ever been a big seller .It’s clearly a weapon and any judge would beat YOU mercilessly for ever using one .
A nice 2 or 3 cell 18650 or 26650 nicely balanced/ really bright with a seizure inducing strobe and Ui that allows it to start on high or start on strobe along with a 30 minute video on how to use a baton for self defense might make an interesting light .Maybe some square knurling like on the jacob A60. The lights battiness isn’t going to make it easier for you to beat someone down ,it will always be dependant on your own ability .otherwise the person will simply take it from you and pulverize you with your own toy . If you have real skill you can kill someone using a red Black Cat with a green emitter…. (made in Gemany)

Maybe make the light have such bad PWM it makes your attacker nauseous :confounded:

I guess people forgot dbcustom tried to get a group buy on a bat light already and there wasn’t enough interest. If this fizzles I’ll just buy one off Amazon and mod it to my liking. People were actually interested in that thread. None of that butt hurt stuff like in this thread. Comparing the two threads you can see how much blf has changed. The snowflakes are everywhere now

Carrying a baseball bat in a car is fine , just make sure it’s sitting with a baseball & gloves / stumps or whatever. :wink:

Quite agree, too many snowflakes everwhere, is happening on all forums.

Id be in, but sadly in the UK something like this would be fround upon.
So its a 6 cell mag light for me and you can always legally carry a couple of spare d cell batteries for it too, keep them in a long sock to stop then shorting out in your coat pocket :wink: :smiley:

i always bring small knife and a knucle duster, if one of it fail the other will do the job.

Convoy L6 instant turbo and plenty of heft.

Why in a country were you can legally purchase and carry a handgun would you want to defend yourself with a club?

You have no idea how long I was looking for one of those…

All sold out, discontinued, nope, nada, nuh-uh, nyet, etc.

Because you can legally purchase one doesn’t mean you can legally carry it. My state has open carry law as long as the firearm is visible and not pointed at anyone you can go anywhere in public with it. Except stores that have a notice saying no weapons aloud.

Most states don’t have a open carry law. To be able to carry it you have to get a concealed carry permit.
Also in my state you can ride with it legally loaded with one in the chamber. But the next state over 20 mins away the laws differ. It has to be a 3 step process meaning, the pistol can be up front, the bullets and magazine have to be in a separate compartment such as the trunk. You have to get the pistol then retrieve the magazine then load it. Every state has different laws. Some states can’t even have it in your vehicle besides going hunting or etc and they have to be put in a certain way and unloaded. America isn’t the wild west as people think. There are more then enough gun laws in place. When I bought my guns from the sports store. They won’t let you have the gun and bullets together. At the counter if your looking at the fire arm and want to look at the bullets it uses you have to hand the fire arm back before they give you the ammo. And you can purchase them together. But they escort you to the register then escort you to the door. Then hand you your purchase as your going outside After a back ground check of course they take your driver license and run it through a federal database. Takes about 20 minutes.

Reminds me of a story when I was in the Marines there was this pog (non infantry mos) he had never been in a fight was kinda smaller and short. Maybe 5foot 4 120lbs. This one guy kept picking on him and picking on him would go up and just *itch slap him and call it the hand of justice. When he would get bored he would say it’s hand of justice time. One day we were on deck alone and the guy maybe 5 foot 10 160lbs cornered him by the lockers. He was going in his locker. He took his lock and baseball threw it into the guys face from like 1 foot away. And that’s all the poor kid got in. He got the snot beat out of him. When he tried throwing the guy off the 3rd story stairs onto the concrete below that’s when we stepped in and stopped it. People do stupid stuff when their young and a testosterone fueled environment. It’s kinda like school or jail. Even if you know you’ll probably lose fight anyway and they’ll respect you afterwards and so will everyone else and you’ll get left alone after because everyone knows you’ll fight and won’t be such a easy target. Now watching 2 infantry guys who are trained to fight and kill go at it is very entertaining. It’s kinda like UFC but with no referee. To become a black belt with red stripes in the Marines you have to take 2 or 3 guys at the same time. Depending on the level and it’s a real fight. I’m not joking when I say any Marine mcmap instructor could take on anyone in the UFC easily. The Marines developed their own Martial arts. They took bits and pieces from every martial art out there and combined it. No fancy moves just stuff that works. Whether it’s to disable the enemy or snap their neck and move to the next guy. To really rank up in infantry you have to move up in your mcmap belts. But your story brings back memories. If you ever seen full metal jacket, soap in a sock works doesn’t leave many external bruises and it does happen. A bar of soap is pretty much like metal it’s not going to break no matter how hard you hit someone with it. But I never saw anyone get beat in bootcamp that didn’t deserve it. Everyone messes up a few times and the whole platoon gets smoked for it. The di do it on purpose. And that’s alright But there’s always a few guys that constantly mess up day in and out and get everyone messed up. Just like the movie, they get their act together afterwards minus killing the di and committing suicide

You must live in a very safe area. The sold purpose of batlight is form of lighting. Just happens to be a defensive tool if needed for defense. Primary use is lighting.

Major cities like Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles and bigger cities have higher crime rates. If you can not carry firearm the next best thing is baton which is a flashlight.

I will invest in project if anyone can do project.

learning how not to get beaten with a weapon you whip out on someone is an art

I like the idea…

A real Self-Defense flashlight!

I have this one, the X-110 (not a zoomie) I prefer it over the “bat” style, it’s more of a “Billy Club”:


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It’s slightly over a foot long (13.5”):




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It’s a copy/clone of the 4x18650 Solarforce Gladiator: (or as Foy called it: “ass-whoopin’ stick”)

It looks like you can still get the Solarforce:
https://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/products/solarforce-gladiator-professional-security-flashlight-body-with-3-dummy-18650-batteries-pouch

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The clone/X-110 has been off the market and was nowhere to be found for a long time, however it recently resurfaced by Brett trading on Aliexpress
(Now called the X-119)…

I have been in communication with Brett, I could attempt to find out the possibilities of the factory making a Special Edition. I’m looking into modding mine.
It’s 2x 18650 with some type of a dummy cell spacer that takes up the length of the 3rd and 4th cells, it uses a Drop-in similar to a P60.

Or we could try talking to Solarforce, since the Gladiator uses an actual P60.

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I missed the X110 after you gave me heads up. Someone beat me to it.

I contacted Solarforce directly about purchasing all parts needed to build Gladiator. Their customer service is really crappy. They did not answer or acknowledge my e mails for further purchase information. I really want 1 but will not shell out money to company that does not care to reply to simple requests.

Hmm that’s been awhile, exactly what happened? The link was still working earlier tonight when I posted here, it’s very strange but suddenly the link is not working now! I’ll message them and try to get an answer, unless you already know more?

Solarforce was very slow responding but they have replied to my messages before, not sure what’s going on but I agree, I was planning on buying a few hosts but I’m also going to see if I can establish communication before I send any money.

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On a smaller scale something like this might be an idea:

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Using 4x18650’s you could run a 12v XHP35, XHP50/70 or 4x3v LED’s (Quad on a copper pill/optic) wired in series.

Not sure about Europe but wouldn’t dare use it in the uk.