Wow guaranteed below BBL and all bars above 90 seems to suggest this will be the king of good tint/cri emitters. Where do you buy these emitters? How does it perform besides tint and cri?
this is 3000k that maukka says has bad green tint (notice the tall green bar)
these are 3000 and 3500k without the tall green bar
seems there are factors relating to different models of those LEDs, not sure
Do any of you, except perhaps for Maukka, have the Samsung LH351Bs 3000k R9070?
Would like to see some data on it.
Jon, here is the binning for the 3000k Oslon tested. Not good, still trying to learn Osram’s naming schemes for these products to see which generation fits in where.
2700k: 7 pieces OSRAM OSLON Square | 2700K | LED 3030 | CRI 96 | 2W | LCW CQAR.CC | eBay
3500k: https://www.ebay.com/itm/7-pieces-OSRAM-OSLON-Square-LED-3500K-CRI-96-2W-HIGH-POWER-3030-LCW-CQAR-CC/282084772891?hash=item41ad900c1b:g:APAAAOSwTqdZrJYD
Those leds are great, of that (old first gen. Square) type I have a 3500K 80CRI led in a copper AA Maratac and the tint and beam are wonderful. They knew their tints back then.
Mind though that the ebay seller shows a 2nd generation Square in the picture while the type-nrs for sale are the older and worse performing first generation Square (but with that wonderful tint). With the second gen. Square came the green-ish tints in the high CRI versions.
I like that!
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darn, so, in general they could be above or below, but if you can specifically buy 6q and 6u, then its a win
now Im confused again, are you saying the LEDs that staticx57 linked have green tint? Doesnt the specific bin they list guarantee the tint will be below the BBL?
Im much more interested in High CRI than High brightness.
and please, lets only talk about High CRI, and skip the 80 cri discussion here. I want to stay focused on LEDs with High R9 values, not just high CRI values, and not LEDs with less than 90 CRI and less than R9 values of at least 80.
so far, my pick would be a Nichia sw40 9080… costs less than Oslon, and the tint bin is not above bbl
Here is the 3000k I tested. It is a different generation of Square.
(binned above the BBL)2nd generation square 3000k 95 CRI:7 pieces OSRAM OSLON® Square LED 3000K CRI 95 2W HIGH POWER 3030 GW CSSRM1.BM | eBay
(binned below the BBL)1st generation square 2700k 96 CRI: 7 pieces OSRAM OSLON Square | 2700K | LED 3030 | CRI 96 | 2W | LCW CQAR.CC | eBay
(binned below the BBL)1st generation square 3500k 96 CRI: https://www.ebay.com/itm/7-pieces-OSRAM-OSLON-Square-LED-3500K-CRI-96-2W-HIGH-POWER-3030-LCW-CQAR-CC/282084772891
thanks for clarifying gen1 and gen2
so the ones you posted in post 55 are gen1 (all bars above 90)
and the one barkuti posted in post 49 is gen2? (all bars below 90 except green)
my confusion relates to which post has which generation, and which ebay link goes with the one barkuti posted, and which ebay link is like the one maukka calls the green one, gen2?
green lantern tangent
it seems any time an LED is manufactured to be more efficient (bright), it is also greener
as if brighter and greener go hand in hand
I see this with the N219c also, it is brighter and greener
many people dont notice green tint, especially if their eyes are daylight adapted at the time
sometimes it sucks to be a snob, it made me not want the S1 Mini High CRI, cause I saw maukkas green tint photos, and they are true in real life too, when my brain is adapted to incandescent… Lee minus green filters for the Win!
I dont mind trading lumens for Tint
(binned above the BBL)2nd generation square 3000k 95 CRI:7 pieces OSRAM OSLON® Square LED 3000K CRI 95 2W HIGH POWER 3030 GW CSSRM1.BM | eBay
(binned below the BBL)1st generation square 2700k 96 CRI: 7 pieces OSRAM OSLON Square | 2700K | LED 3030 | CRI 96 | 2W | LCW CQAR.CC | eBay
(binned below the BBL)1st generation square 3500k 96 CRI: https://www.ebay.com/itm/7-pieces-OSRAM-OSLON-Square-LED-3500K-CRI-96-2W-HIGH-POWER-3030-LCW-CQAR-CC/282084772891
Oops please translate U6 as 6U and Q6 as 6Q in the pictures, mixed up the order
Outstanding! Thank you very much
the green tinted gen2 version has the tallest green bar, and the green bar is taller than the R9
the gen1 binned below the BBL have R9 bars that are taller than the green bars
excellent info
I still think a taller Green bar than R9 bar is predictive of green tint, but I do realize they are separate factors. I just like rules of thumb. Pass on the Taller Green Bar for night use. During the day, my brain white balances to a lot more green content.
It think the overall spectral emission balance versus the equivalent temperature correlated black body/sun illuminant gives out the tint, and it may be well possible to hint it just looking at the balance between the saturated colour values R9 - R12:
This one should look very slightly greenish.
In this case the above one looks to be slightly below BBL and cozy, while the latter is quite balanced. 
Cheers ^:)
yes, thanks for your comments,
I think saturated color balance is a potentially helpful tint hint
and I think youre correct to include the blue in a balance comparison
heads up, Clemence has a new shipment of Optisolis, N219b, E21a
here is a glimpse of past charts
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and look what Clemence did to one of my Utorch S1 Mini…
he installed an E21A 2000k on left, plus other beam magic, compare to stock XPL 4000k on right…
watch his site and or message him for more info https://www.virence.com/shop
he offers quad boards, led reflow services, and does mods too… the man is an Artiste, Im a fan
I love the candlelight 2000k E21A. Clemence is modding several Tiara Pros with different E21A tints for me. I can’t wait to see them in action!
That 219b 4500 looks gorgeous! It's my PERFECT tint.
the 2000k looks like you smashed a pumpkin up against the wall :disappointed:
I look forward to your photos
so far I have one Utorch w 2000k E21A, and one Utorch w N219b 4500k
theres one more torch to do, and Im waffling, trying to decide what LED to choose
at first I wanted a 4000k 219b 9080, then I considered and E21A, also in 4000k, Then I decided to get another N219b 4500k 9080… the LED going into the $1000 Titanium HDS… its like the holy grail…, but I digress, then I wondered about a 5000k Optisolis…
then I posted the above comparo of the 3k Optisolis and 3K E21A… I have not yet learned if the Optisolis would fit a Utorch S1 Mini…
meanwhile I bought a Low CRI light… true story… incoming RRT-01, the polar opposite of everything this thread is about, it has negative R9, green Tint, is cool white, and makes skin look dead… but hey, its got a magnetic ring Im curious to try :-)…
see all that green in the middle of the beam? Only a snob would notice, but who knows, maybe a Lee 1/2 minus green filter will make it fun as a nightlight… at sublumen levels, colors become rather subLuminated… 
(who am I kidding… I wonder if Clemence could put an Optisolis in an RRT-01;-))
Ive been using them a lot lately, its a fun LED, bright, daylight white, and lots of extra pink:
the Utorch took almost a 50% hit in lumens from the N219b swap, but Im fine with that:
Yes, I Love the Candle color option, for late night chill sessions
have another hit of Clemence’s Magical E21A 2000k:
Wow, that’s like the Hitler of flashlights…