Moving back towards defence lights, I have wondered whether a right-angle light with a hand protection bar would be a better idea than a straight flashlight.
It occurs to me that when you swing a bat light to hit something, the light is immediately pointing somewhere else and you can’t see your target any more. With a right-angle light, you’d be able to keep the light pointed at your target as you punched it.
Something like this, with the hand protection bar in red:
You’d hold the light by the battery tube as normal, with your fingers going between the battery tube and the hand protection bar. If you had to hit someone, the light would naturally point in the direction of your punch, and the bar would protect your fingers.
Personally, I wouldn’t mind having one of those just to use, never mind hitting anyone with it. Being legally blind, I’m forever walking into things, even with a light and a cane. I wear impact gloves, but my hands still take quite a bashing sometimes, so the more protection I can get for them, the better.
Here’s a laugh for ya. They pretty much banned BB guns here, yeah pellet guns!
It’s easier to get a shotgun license than a permit for a .177 air or spring powered “weapon” :laughing: :cry: :weary:
CRX (please don’t take offense to this lol) you don’t need a permit for a spring powered air rifle, .177 or .22 unless it’s over powered (12 ft lb) - it has been like that for decades.
You cannot own self-contained gas cartridge weapons (that HAS changed since I owned one decades ago) however C02 bulb type ones are still legal (not over powered), so far as I can see.
It is NOT easy to get a shotgun license either - you have to jump through a good few hoops, and be visited by the Police to check where the cabinets are etc, you also have to have somewhere to use them.
So long as you tick all the boxes you would have no real problem though.
They have not ‘pretty much’ banned BB guns either (ones that fire plastic balls) so long as they have an orange muzzle and you don’t walk around the street brandishing it - that is more to avoid people being shot by police when using VERY realistic looking ‘toys’. The ones that fire steel ball bearings are classed as air rifles and they are not banned either, unless again they are over 12ft lb or gas cartridge ones.
On topic , if you ever use that Solarforce on anyone, or the Police caught you with it outside (and maybe inside), you could be the one being warned/arrested and that is law.
You might have something there. Now it’s time to test. Take one and try it out on a punching bag or hard mattress. I’m thinking with that design striking down with the end cap no modification needed. Possible with thumb over top to get a better slip free grip. Don’t worry about where the light is pointing, that’s a distraction. Focus on striking. Also get it in Safety Red not Angry Red. Your cane my be the better tool Canes, Staffs, And Hidden Sword Canes | Cold Steel or a water pistol loaded with steak sauce and a big hungry dog. Stay safe and have fun.
You shouldn’t fret about rude points when you make a good argument. I’d be anti-gun if I lived in the US but I totally get your point and it’s well explained and not offensive at all
I consider this a much more usefull self protection flashlight. Add a seat belt cutter and make sure the tip is capable of breaking a windshield and it’s a great glove box companion
That is brilliant. I think it is time to start the thread on designing that fighting “easy hold no-lose light”.
We need to combine the most effective ‘fighting’ yet most benign looking version of “the easy hold light”, i.e. describing it as “for arthritis sufferers, boaters, hikers”.
The right design can be a fighter that looks legal and non (or not very) threatening.
I’m definitely interested in a “self defense” light. And I really like this idea:
But with a spike at the bottom like this:
And a taser on the front like this:
I’ve considered buying one of the bat/flashlight combos online, but in order to swing the bat, you would have to take the beam off of your assailant. Kinda defeats the purpose in my opinion. Imagine walking with it on a dark night and you get in a “batters stance.” You’d probably lose sight and would be guessing on when to swing.
Obviously whatever is made will be prohibited in certain countries. So I’d like to see a project that stays true to being a “self defense weapon” rather than trying to appease a minority where such items are prohibited.
Serious “out of the box”,“as is” lights that can do the job as cop tested.
Plus the new and improved.
Both not too expensive and designed for hard use. The rubber grip will keep it in your hand. The metal head will split theirs. Don’t ever get cheap with personal well being. Both waterproof, I hear it rains in Scotland. Not some unheard of off brand.
Unfortunately, I need light on target, hence punching forward with the hand protection bar rather than striking downward (kubotan style?) as you suggest. I have no night vision whatsoever, so taking the beam off target means I lose the target altogether. I do take your point in general, though.
Well played, sir
I have never thought about that. Nope. No. Definitely not.
I had to laugh at the Liverpool Assassin, though!
I don’t have a guide dog, but I’m quietly chuckling to myself as I imagine one trained to be meek and mild as guide dogs generally are, yet turn into a warhound when it sees anything coated in steak sauce
Thank you. I do believe we’ve found our marketing expert for the BLF EasiGrip No Drop Light
Unfortunately, the UK would prohibit your version, so I wouldn’t subscribe to that viewpoint.
On a more general note, when I consider the morass of country-by-country or even state-by-state legislation, it would probably be better for the putative manufacturer to make a range of several versions with many parts in common. That would let them sell everything from the wimpy Brit version right up to the deluxe failed state assault trooper model.
It also occurs to me that it might be possible to make the hand protection bar as a user-installable add-on for an existing right-angle flashlight, which would offer still another option.
:cry: :weary:
, if you ever use that Solarforce on anyone, or the Police caught you with it outside (and maybe inside), you could be the one being warned/arrested and that is law.
or for short walks 
