*** NEW *** Haikelite SC26 XHP35 26650/26350 aka Fatty ***Update*** 2018-07-24

Keep us informed if there will be a new dealer to buy this.
Thanks for starting this thread.

How tall is the 26650 beauty?
I’m looking for a 26650 EDC, and am trying to decide between this one and the DQG Tiny III.
In the other thread it was reported to be 115 or 117mm, but when I followed the link to the manufacturer’s site, it states 125mm.

Assuming this version of the light uses the TA driver, can anyone comment on the efficiency compared to the above quote from the DQG Tiny III review?

Cheers FlashKat! :sunglasses:

If there is contradictory data, then I do not know. Perhaps member Pok can measure his SC26.
Also note the following regarding UI. If the UI is the same/similar as that of the MT09R, then my opinion is that ramping is clunky and not smooth. The fixed output modes have a low to high sequence with memory, so there is no instant access to low from off, unless you’ve switched the light off in low. So in order to go to low, you have to cycle all the way to high mode and back.
Please keep this in mind, but things could change in the final version.

No. Member Texas Ace confirmed that SC26 is not equipped with a TA driver. He was simply not asked to design this driver.

Could we ask him to build one? I know the SC26 group buy was a bust… but his driver in my MT09R is fantastic. I’d honestly prefer a host option that way I could put whatever I want in it.

You can always ask him. But I suspect the market would be much smaller.
The base price for the MT09R is $100+. So adding some cost for a TA driver and options is interesting. The base price for the SC26 is much lower; the group buy price for the new XHP35 variant is at this moment set at $32.
So if you add a TA driver plus options, then the total price will increase significantly more percentage wise.
Furthermore there are technical complications. The light requires a boost driver (unlike with the MT09R where a FET driver is used). I think TA is working on a boost driver design, but it’s not ready yet.
Basically, the type of driver that is required here is a bit outside TA’s comfort zone I think. Please correct me if I’m mistaken TA. There are options to go for an XP-L emitter with FET drive, but then it’s a bit of a downgrade from the XHP35 emitter.
So I personally think it’s less likely that this will happen, but of course the man himself Mr. TA should be asked for a definitive answer.
It certainly would be cool though. :sunglasses:

You are right, it will likely increase the price with 50% or more. It’s not just the driver but also shipping costs.
But even which such a price increase it’s not an absolute no for me.
Depending on the improvements in interface and efficiency I would be prepared to buy a TA driver, assuming it’s easy to swap.

I’d be willing to pay more for a quality driver and LED for sure. But I understand that it might not be possible at all if TA is still working on a boost driver.

Either way, I’ll probably buy 2. One just to have and the second to modify.

Or tell HaikeLite to forget the internals and just make us a host :slight_smile: (Granted we would absolutely need a viable way to construct them all).

I like the way it is, nice flashlight.

Thanks for starting this thread hikarinoob! I’m still looking forward to this light, and I have the trits and batteries to show for it. I wonder what the possibility is, of HL releasing a host version in the mean time while they are trying to get the specs worked out (since the rumor mill says that they are short on cash). If so, I would definitely be in for a couple depending on the price. Hopefully TA would be willing to design one for sale but if worse comes to worst I can use a 22mm TA/Narsil driver from lexel, and mate it with a washer of an appropriate size to fit the light.

Maybe TA could construct them as part of a group buy?
But if we go the host route, I may prefer the smaller DQG Tiny III as an host. I guess most people were in the GB because of the small size?

I think HL would do well to consider pivoting to supplying hosts as they lock down R&D and rebuild their reputation.

Cheers vinte77! :+1: :beer: If you’ve got the trits or a 26350 then you’ve got a good reason to stick around. I do think an XP-L is a good choice for this light. I think you have a bunch of drivers to choose from, and you’re not going to have over heating issues.
I mean, imagine something like a 4000K high CRI XP-L emitter on a Navy Blue SC26 packed with trits… That’s just classy and awesome! :sunglasses:

The leds I was considering for this light were either the Samsung LH351D 4000k 90cri w/sliced dome or the Luxeon MZ 5700k 90 CRI w/tir optic. I was planning on purple trits on a white/silver SC26.

ps. I have a handful of TIR optics that should fit the SC26 but I’ll probably have to tinker with them to fit.

Where did you see the 125mm number listed?

Can’t find it on the manufacturer’s site, so I was likely wrong about that. All Chinese sites I’ve found list 125mm. Perhaps they all copy and paste the same error….?

From the OP’s pics, the SC26 seems much larger than I imagined since the SC01 is a pretty big 26650 light. I was expecting DQG Tiny size but I guess the deep reflector for throw is he reason. I’m wondering why they don’t make it a smooth reflector to maximize the throw potential.

I would love to see a real TA driver in it too. I don’t think any BLF member has one yet though. While asking Lexel for some drivers last week, he said boost drivers are giving him a headache. I just hope the SC26 is not glued and easily modable since it is such a nice looking host.

it doesnt look that big too me compared to the sc01, and a flashlight that takes 1x26650 cant be supersmall either like the olight s1 batons… Looks interesting lets see how it will perform and who will sell these in EU might buy one later on as i have liitoakalas 26650 thats just collecting dust atm…

The DQG is really designed to be as small as possible. Haikelite lights in general are fairly bulky with decent amount of space for the driver. I think the reason they didn’t use a smooth reflector is because this light is not supposed to be a dedicated thrower. Instead, the textured reflector is for a smoother beam which may be more interesting to some for EDC-ish use.

I’m a bit soured by the whole previous group buy but I’m hoping that someone can get a real-life, BLF-tester to put this through its paces before plunking down any money.

I suspected that this light would have issues like the MT09R and it was reported that it was running well under spec. I’m not willing to spend the money to get a light that needs an upgrade from the get-go.

I’ve got one 26650 light (Convoy BD06) and I like the size for around the house and yard and don’t need this light to be super small for EDC. There are a good number of other small, powerful lights for carrying on my person. A reasonably-sized light like the SC26 with a super high capacity cell would be a nice addition to my collection that would see a lot of use. That said, I’d probably get a couple 26350 cells for fun just to try them out.

Bottom line: I’m not going to buy one without a trusted review. Not having reassurances that I can count on have made me very wary of Haikelite after the last three or four months. Let’s hope Haikelite really, truly wants to repair their reputation by making this happen.