Copper S2+ limited edition

Doesnā€™t convection have a bigger impact on cooling than radiation? Certainly with a slight breeze it would, but even with still air it must have a pretty big effect. Anyone know the actual number?

Convection is dominant part of cooling, otherwise flashlight would become hot much faster.

Well, as a rough guess, most small lights that are thermally regulated seem to stabilize their output at about 500 lumens, if you tail-stand them. Thatā€™s about 5 watts of power, with maybe 50% going OTF in light? If youā€™re saying 1 - 2 watts of that is radiative, then that leaves only 0.5 - 1.5 watts for convection.

Doesnā€™t sound like enough. I thought convective cooling would be 3 or 4 times what radiative cooling can do.

It is - at high power, ratio of convection/radiation dissipation depends a lot on input power/flashlight temperature. S2 head has very small surface area,1-2Watts is enough to increase temperature close to 60C over some time.

Specific thermal conductance/conductivity and specific volumetric capacitance/capacity are very different properties of material.

Copper has almost 2x times better spec. thermal conductivity (Sinkpad numbers you mentioned), but spec. volumetric capacitance is only 30% better.

Spec. volumetric capacitance determines how much temperature would rise when material receives thermal energy/heat.

Just noticed that these are all sold out now.

Mine shipped this morning, so the three week countdown to here has started. Thanks to Simon Mao and J-Dub74 for making it happen :+1:

I just ordered but wasnā€™t sure what options for driver or led was available, what are the available options.

You can basically ask for anything thatā€™s available in another version of the S2. You can see the older S2 configurations here:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-Shipping-Convoy-S2-Gray-Cree-XML2-U2-1A-AMC7135-3-2-Group-3-5-Mode/330416_1614328969.html

and the newer configurations here:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/desert-tan-S2-flashlight-with-XPL-HI-led-inside-and-ar-coated-glass-biscotti-firmware/32820745681.html

Other tweaks may also be negotiable, possibly at an extra charge.

I went with a 7135Ɨ8 Biscotti driver and an XPL HI U6-3A LED, along with AR glass and a smooth reflector. Basically copying one of the new Desert Tan S2+ configurations.

Iā€™ve never turned a S2 into a tripleā€¦ Whatā€™s the easiest way to do so?

If i could get a triple Nichia 90CRI drop in that works with the A6 driver that would be great.

You have to make or buy a spacer.
Copper is best, aluminum is goodā€¦
Kiriba-ru sells some, for a reasonable price IMHO

+1! Bought some from him and Iā€™m happy with those!

I didnā€™t buy the S2+ copper but this surelly looks pretty!
Modders, show us what youā€™ll do to yours :smiling_imp:

Was one of the first to order it, but had to cancel because I had not specified led and driver, et cetera.
Apparently this caused the light to re-appear in stock only moments ago. And I (re)ordered the (truly) last one. Sighā€¦

EDIT: And 15 hours later it is already on itā€™s way to me :partying_face:

Great, doesn't it? :-)

Mine is going to be a custom build with H1-A 3A boost driver and an XHP50 90+CRI G4 35G. Gotta decide if I'm gonna put a 10Āŗ or a 5Āŗ TIR on it. Up to 1600+ lumens OTF if I'm not mistaken, I could increase driving current a bit but it's going to be gifted to a non-flashaholic lady (a very smart person).

Cheers ^:)

Mines on the way and I ordered it as a host. Itā€™s being kept to build out as a future gift. But if I take a liking to it then Iā€™ll keep it.

This sounds interesting, please do post about it when you built it :slight_smile:

Barkuti, isnā€™t the H1-A 20mm? I thought the S2+ used a 17mm driver. I think what you are proposing would be an awesome build, so Iā€™m just wondering how you are going to do it. I might be off on the driver dimensions or maybe thereā€™s another H1-A Iā€™m not aware of. I was looking at the one on KD. Thanks.

Yes, but take a look at Jensen567's S2+ builds. Since I have a powerful hot air gun I'm gonna solder the H1-A to the pill in a similar way (I also plan on slightly biting the H1-A board for the pill indentations).

Cheers ^:)

I cannot believe I missed this light!!
I certainly hope there is a batch #2 in the worksā€¦

Shame I have 4 Convoyā€™s already. Very niceā€¦

Simon just told me ā€¦ about 2 months for batch #2