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Really??? :open_mouth: . Excellent news. :+1:

Well as I see it what the poll then shows is that the intended market doesn’t have a clear preference. That makes the poll moot and it is the designer/manufacturer decision again (or, more correctly - still) as to what is used. Fine by me, I’ll love it regardless unless it has serious faults. What the poll might achieve though, is make it more likely that two options be made available. Winner winner chicken dinner, as they say.

Assuming you’re taking these pictures in the evening, then that bright object is Jupiter. Right now, it’s in the eastern/southeastern sky after sunset. Venus is in the west after sunset, for the next couple of months.

If possible to still get on the list for these, please count me in…
:slight_smile:

Yes

I like the smiley faces at top right.

PS: it’s called a torch, by all right-thinking people who understand English.

Though I drift off into Norse with my chums up north, my Dane girlfriend used to be most amused but kept up. Geordie = Norse.

Says the guy using stones as a unit of measure :person_facepalming:

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Hey the U.K. might have a few leftover measurements from the stone age, but things have been largely metric in the English speaking world (along with everywhere else) since the 70’s except for certain former colonies waaaaaay over there to the left on the world map, who won’t budge an inch.

Tom Tom, I did not think you were so bigoted, until recently. Please keep in mind this is an international forum. We are from all over the world. For many people here, English might be their 2nd or 3rd language. Please try to be more tolerant of others, okay?

Also, when you say stuff like this I can’t tell if your joking or serious. I’m starting to think serious.

You make it not so pleasant when you say stuff like this or rant about shipping rates. I’m sure you think your country is the greatest in the world, but you have to remember that everyone thinks their country is the greatest.

Can we please focus on the lights and all get along? Thank you.

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LOL, just let them UK/Common Wealth folks call themselves names among each other, they will be juuuuust fine! :partying_face: :+1:

(lived in England for a while with two irishmen, one catholic from Dublin, one protestant from Belfast, have learned a few words that I was never taught in English class.)

I usually hang out on Reddit so I just now made an account here, but I’d like to get on the list please! Thanks everyone for your hard work on this!

Welcome to the forum. I’m sure Pepinfaxera will add you for one unit when he does his next update.

I’ve actually taken some video now with my d4 219c (approximating the cd of a lh351d fw3a) showing why I do not think any more throwiness than that is a useful thing even outdoors, and why floodiness might be. I have tested several scenarios; both distance shots and a variety of other ranges. I blindfolded one eye for 20-30 minutes before going outside, but as it turned out the camera wasn’t able to be made sensitive enough to match it. I got it as close as I could to the non-adapted eye’s sensitivity, but it didn’t quite reach that. I’m more of a stills photographer, so maybe there’s something I missed. All video clips were shot at the same exposures, the only auto setting was white balance.

Hells’ Bells. just get it made and delivered PDQ, however.

Done and dusted,

Then we can stop yacking about it.

It might be great, or not, but I’ll take that chance.

@spaceminions

What should I have done for my beamshots to be better? Do a full auto picture, note the ISO and Aperture, switch to “Program Auto” and fix those values and let it auto everything else?

I’m hoping to do an emitter-vs-color-temperature heat map of all votes with a matching name on both polls, to get more info about which specific emitter+color combinations are most popular. And since I can’t map anon votes between polls, they won’t be on the graph.

However, I have a tool to run the Condorcet algorithm locally, and here are the results so far with anon votes removed:

Color temperature:

      4500K 4750K 5000K 4250K 4000K 5500K 3500K 3000K 6000K 6500K
4500K     -   104   113   126   128   149   157   160   168   173
4750K    78     -   102   108   119   160   155   163   179   183
5000K    86    89     -   106   114   186   157   160   189   192
4250K    51    71    91     -    85   124   130   135   139   144
4000K    57    74    88    70     -   125   139   144   141   145
5500K    53    29    12    73    75     -   104   119   153   158
3500K    33    42    48    42    30    82     -   122   107   116
3000K    38    38    44    49    39    68    39     -   101   112
6000K    32    18     9    52    53     6    67    66     -   122
6500K    25    12     7    39    40     4    48    46     7     -

Emitter type:

               Samsung LH351D   Cree XP-L HI    Nichia 219c     Cree XP-G3     Cree XP-G2
Samsung LH351D              -            126            153            181            188
  Cree XP-L HI            120              -            152            233            236
   Nichia 219c             77             98              -            154            162
    Cree XP-G3             62             18             84              -            127
    Cree XP-G2             53             14             71             76              -

Removing anons doesn’t change the color temperature rankings. It does flip the top two for emitter type though. In either case, the margin isn’t big. In one result, XP-L HI wins by 5 votes. In the other result, LH351D wins by 6 votes.

The main trends I see in the votes are:

  • The top two emitter types are pretty evenly split, so we should probably try to get Lumintop to make both.
  • Tint for each emitter type should be 4000K to 5000K, but the details need a closer look.

BTW, it’s worth mentioning that the polling site does at least try to prevent ballot stuffing. It’s not very hard to get around that, with a bit of internet trickery, but it at least doesn’t let people do it easily. And at a glance, it doesn’t look like that has happened, even among anon votes. Like, for color temperature, there are currently 119 anon votes, of which there are 106 different unique ballots. And half of the non-unique ones just have “10” in every cell, no preference expressed, so they don’t even affect the result.

I actually started writing an implementation of the beatpath algorithm to satisfy my own curiosity about the impact of anonymous votes.

I do hope Lumintop will make two emitter options. Obviously my preferred emitter is better than the other leading option, but I do see where proponents of the opposition are coming from (they’re still wrong).

I don’t know if it is possible, but I agree that the poll shows that having both XP-L and Samsung choices would make the most people the happiest. Although I prefer the XP-L, I would probably get both in that scenario. My wallet is hoping against this.