I bet they are willing to collaborate. We probably made them more profit in 1 day than the whole year of their own light.
They really should get a clue before calling the GT some Chinese/Russian “outlaw” light though…
Don’t think that’s what they’re implying. I think it’s in regard to pirating the Wavien collar design itself (an outlaw) foremost to begin with not any particular host they would stick it in - not implying that the GT for instance is an outlaw Chinese/Russian light in of itself.
They have no say on what host you put a Wavien collar into just as long as the collar itself is sold by the licensee, Marinebeam. So far but that now has changed it appears.
At least the way I see it else they wouldn’t be selling these 50 collars individually. On the other hand assuming these 50 stand alone collars were a one time deal only now they appear to be saying that in the future a BLF group type light can be leveraged through them directly and they’ll sell the host unit/design with their collar installed is another thing altogether. It’s implied that that’s what they did with the XHP35.
It wouldn’t be a bad idea IMO if Marinebeam further clarified what they exactly mean here in context to what they just did with this 50 collar sale. I’m assuming there will no longer be any more sales of individual collars so if you want a future BLF GT type light with a Wavien, it’ll apparently have to be sold through them using a supplied host (or just the host design itself perhaps more likely) but they build it and then sell the assembled waviened unit.
I would be extremely interested in a GT w/ XHP35 HI making 3MCD or a GT w/ XHP70.2 making 2MCD
The opening in this collar is small so light from the edges of the large 70.2 die may not fill out the complete lens, a sort of vignetting, effectively reducing the die size and output. Throw may not be affected.
Enderman, did they tell you when they will ship them?
Marinebeam replied and said the reason why the coupon did not work was because I had free shipping because my order exceeded $100. You can either get 10% off or Free Shipping. If that’s the case, there’s really no incentive to purchase more than $100.
Ridiculous. A real outlaw policy if you ask me
Oh that sucks, I had no idea 
Mine just shipped a few hours ago.
I just got an email SKV89 and contactcr:
“Our customer service got a message today about some problems with the free shipping on orders over $100. This is my fault. When I set up the group discount code, I didn’t realize that it automatically disabled the free shipping. This is because the web platform can’t support two discount coupons or promotions on the same order (makes sense actually). I can’t change it now, or everyone will really be confused when they try to use a discount code that won’t work, but any US customers that got stiffed on the shipping can contact customer service by email at info@marinebeam.com, and we will rebate them the $6.95 for US shipping. Might take a day or two to process.
For anyone who is still considering ordering, just put a note in the comment section to refund the shipping amount. US customers by USPS only.
Sorry for the confusion.”
Im confused with what they are saying. I interpret that email to say they intended to allow both free shipping and 10% 00coupon to be applied on orders over $100.
However the email response I got today said they can only refund me the difference between the 10% coupon and free shipping because only one discount can be applied. They refunded me that difference so I still have to pay shipping.
It sounds like you spoke to someone that did not know what was going on and Enderman spoke to the guy in charge. I would take endermans response over the one you got.
I ended up ordering just one collar out of frustration so it doesn’t apply to me
They just fixed the site, now you should be able to get both the free shipping and discount code.
They sent me another email:
“To correct my previous statement - the coupon code was set up to exclude free shipping offers but we have changed it to apply both. You’ll see a refund for $6.95 to your purchase method as well.”
Great, glad you got your refund.
Anyone purchasing from now on shouldn’t have any problem getting both free shipping and 10% discount 
I sent an email to Jaxman to see if they would sell Z1 host version again, we’ll see what they say…
I also just got an email with a tracking number for my collar.
I didn’t read it that way. I think they were saying they would support efforts to build such a beast so you didn’t need to have a wavien collar made by an “outlaw” group.
Technically it would be outside the law to sell commercially a device that uses a patented technology (without a contract), that’s what was meant.
Even after arranging a legitimate buy of collars they chose to use the term. I think I know what was meant by it. Lumping our own purpose built and unique lights into their counterfeit warning is pretty low. If you want to remind us of the terms of the purchase and offer to collaborate on a licensed light you definitely do not have to word it like that.