FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

[ToyKeeper]

@Tom Tom

why does an XPL-HI cost so much more than an XPL ?

It doesn’t.

But XP-L (HI or HD) costs more than the other emitters being considered.

[ToyKeeper]

@goshdogit

The captive pocket clip is one of my favorite features. Could you measure the diameter of its hole?

I really hope Lumintop will make them available separately. Could you try fitting one to an Emisar D4?

Inner diameter is 23.1 mm. It fits onto a D4, but it’s necessary to take the O-ring off first and then replace it after putting the clip on.

[Tom_Tom]

@ToyKeeper

@Tom Tom

why does an XPL-HI cost so much more than an XPL ?

It doesn’t.

But XP-L (HI or HD) costs more than the other emitters being considered.

But it does cost much more than a plain XP-L (not HI or HD) which is why The Team chose it for the Q8.

Maybe that has changed (out of touch and a bit burned-out still, don’t let that happen to you).

We might have liked one of the others but it made no sense (given the budget). And we got a very nice LED, as it happens.

Still wondering about 20% more for this choice if that’s real, maybe that doesn’t matter to some.

[BlueSwordM]

@TomTom, the plain XPL is actually named XPL HD.

[ToyKeeper]

@Tom Tom

@ToyKeeper

@Tom Tom

why does an XPL-HI cost so much more than an XPL ?

It doesn’t.

But XP-L (HI or HD) costs more than the other emitters being considered.

But it does cost much more than a plain XP-L (not HI or HD) which is why The Team chose it for the Q8.

XP-L comes in two varieties:

• HD: High Density (has a dome)
• HI: High Intensity (no dome)

The BLF Q8 used XP-L HD.

There is no such thing as a “plain XP-L”, but usually when HD or HI isn’t specified, it’s safe to assume HD because it was created first.

[Tom_Tom]

I stand corrected.

I did say I was burned-out and can forget some things.

[bansuri]

@ToyKeeper

@goshdogit

The captive pocket clip is one of my favorite features. Could you measure the diameter of its hole?

I really hope Lumintop will make them available separately. Could you try fitting one to an Emisar D4?

Inner diameter is 23.1 mm. It fits onto a D4, but it’s necessary to take the O-ring off first and then replace it after putting the clip on.

Would happily pay $10 each for 2 additional clips if that option ever pops up.

[Pulsar]

Samsung 5000k would be my vote. Seems like it would suit this host really well

Edit: Not a fan of the ranked choice voting. I wouldnt want any XPG in it, yet had to still include a vote for it. Also same with color temp. Wouldnt want anything higher than 5500k or lower than 4000k, yet had to vote for them…

[pepinfaxera]

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[goshdogit]

@ToyKeeper

Inner diameter is 23.1 mm. It fits onto a D4, but it’s necessary to take the O-ring off first and then replace it after putting the clip on.

Thanks, TK!

Did you like the look of the FW3A clip on the D4?

[spaceminions]

@Pulsar

Samsung 5000k would be my vote. Seems like it would suit this host really well

Edit: Not a fan of the ranked choice voting. I wouldnt want any XPG in it, yet had to still include a vote for it. Also same with color temp. Wouldnt want anything higher than 5500k or lower than 4000k, yet had to vote for them…

This voting means that if you vote for them to have last place, you’re voting that any other option would be better. That’s… how ranked choice works. Just because you had them on the list doesn’t mean you’re voting “for” them.

[teacher]

@Tom Tom

I stand corrected.

I did say I was burned-out and can forget some things.

Yep… it is easy for any of us to go brain dead & get forgetful of even the basics when we get “burned out”.

Get rested up…. you don’t want to end up ‘burned up’ from terminal “burn out”. :+1:

[ToyKeeper]

@spaceminions

@Pulsar

Not a fan of the ranked choice voting. I wouldnt want any XPG in it, yet had to still include a vote for it. Also same with color temp. Wouldnt want anything higher than 5500k or lower than 4000k, yet had to vote for them…

This voting means that if you vote for them to have last place, you’re voting that any other option would be better. That’s… how ranked choice works. Just because you had them on the list doesn’t mean you’re voting “for” them.

Exactly.

For example, consider this ballot:

• 1st choice: 219c, LH351D, XP-L HI
• 5th choice: XP-G2, XP-G3

This ballot says: Anything except XP-G. It votes “for” the first three, and votes “against” the last two.

If someone wants, they can further differentiate, stating which of the first three they like best or which of the last two they dislike most, but it’s not necessary. The ballot style allows a lot of flexibility in expressing one’s views, and the Condorcet vote-counting methods use all that data.

On a side note, Condorcet-based methods are not to be confused with IRV (instant runoff). The ranked-choice ballot looks pretty much the same, but IRV ignores most of the data and produces weird results. It gives the voter the illusion that the nuances of their views matter, but it’s a false illusion.

[teacher]

@Tixx

Both 80 CRI
Set to 4500k on the camera

5000k Samsung

4000k Samsung

Does either picture represent the true color of the backgrounds & foreground?

If so, which one??

If neither, what color are they???
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Here is a ‘side by side’ that might make comparison easier.
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5000k Samsung …………………………………… 4000K Samsung

[Snoballz]

Add me to the list for a 2nd one. Especially if there will be an emitter option.

[spaceminions]

Change my total on the list to 3 please.

[lionheart_2281]

Thanks for that Teacher.

That 5000k Samsung looks as good as my D4 with 3A 5000K.

Now that’s a side by side I’d love to see…….

[pinkpanda3310 (Pinky)]

@teacher

@Tixx

Both 80 CRI
Set to 4500k on the camera

5000k Samsung

4000k Samsung

Does either picture represent the true color of the backgrounds & foreground?

If so, which one??

If neither, what color are they???
.
Here is a ‘side by side’ that might make comparison easier.
.

5000k Samsung …………………………………… 4000K Samsung

The 5000k is more than likely closer to daylight colours but I have little use for that. I will always choose the warmer colours for an edc.

Think of it as an anti-blue light app on your phone or PC only it’s on your torch.

[teacher]

@lionheart_2281

Thanks for that Teacher.

That 5000k Samsung looks as good as my D4 with 3A 5000K.

Now that’s a side by side I’d love to see…….

My pleasure Lionheart. :+1:

I would like to see that comparison myself…….

[teacher]

@pinkpanda3310

@teacher

@Tixx

Both 80 CRI
Set to 4500k on the camera

5000k Samsung

4000k Samsung

Does either picture represent the true color of the backgrounds & foreground?

If so, which one??

If neither, what color are they???
.
Here is a ‘side by side’ that might make comparison easier.
.

5000k Samsung ………. 4000K Samsung

The 5000k is more than likely closer to daylight colours but I have little use for that. I will always choose the warmer colours for an edc.

Think of it as an anti-blue light app on your phone or PC only it’s on your torch.

Thanks pinkpanda. If I understand you correctly you are saying the 5000K picture shows more realistic background & foreground colors? Is that correct??

I hear what you are saying about color choice to. :+1: I guess that speaks to personal preference, as I would never, on purpose; choose anything warmer than 5000K for an EDC.