Proposal for a BLF defense flashlight

Probable cause? for carrying a flashlight at night? Give me a logical break? OK?

The USA are funny

You can’t bring a baseball bat, but a gun is ok …

Yup.

I remember years ago when I was taking martial alts and found there are heavy restrictions on anything resembling martial arts weapons. You can carry escrima sticks (wooden stick) or nun chuks ONLY to or from your dojo. It’s illegal here to carry them anywhere else.

There are fewer restrictions on carrying around firearms. After all… in the U.S. you have a constitutional right to carry a firearm. But no such right applies to carrying around a club.

You’re still missing the point.

From a legal perspective in many areas it does not matter that the object has more than one purpose or that being used as a weapon is secondary. All that matters is that the object looks like a weapon and one of your goals in carrying it is to use it as a weapon.

Of course this will vary by jurisdiction and by the police officers who happen to see it. In many areas I’m sure it’s perfectly legal to carry around a bat light. And those people might well enjoy a BLF special edition self-defense light.

It’s a bit more complex than that generalization

Unlike other countries, the laws vary from State to State. The US is a representative republic.

At least in theory…

Your lack of common sense may give you a ride one day. You contradict your first line and a half with your last sentence. Check your local laws and carry what is legal and traditional; pepper spray, stun guns and firearms. All very effective when used right. Skirting tradition self defense items and methods may paint you as the aggressor looking for a fight or just a paranoid nut job off his meds. Your short rant here is disconcerting. Considering you have 10 bat flashlights to protect yourself from your local rapist, mean attack dog, serial killer, etc…. With your level of concern you should be able to spot ninja’s at night a hundred meters and never need to use all those defensive flashlights.

If anyone is truly interested in self defense a flashlight should be near the bottom of the list. Those who live in freer areas I recommend a good handgun with a lesser item like pepper spray. Then, training, training, practice, situational awareness and a good dose of common sense. Those in less free areas pick what is allowed then repeat; training, training, practice, situational awareness and a good dose of common sense. Gimmicks are not good self defense items, they may delay your ability to really defend yourself or give a false sense of security.

Hey Texas Shooter, I am not here to argue with you. Not worth the time or effort. TOTAL WASTE of time.

OP started this thread NOT me. I am interested and all the BS legality issues arise. OP asked who was interested. I happen to be 1 of them other BLF members here interested. Debates on legality is A JOKE!!!

Thread is about who wants 1.

If this ‘project’ ever get’s off the launch pad count me in… I am interested & will defiantly buy at least one. :wink:

That’s a good point. Instead of making this light a “batlight”, why not make it a “gunlight”? You could hide the shotgun barrel behind the reflector. Power off a single 18650 for the light, with room for a half-dozen shotgun shells in the spare space. Single-click turn turn the light on/off, double-click to fire the shotgun. Perhaps a triple-click for an electronic lock-out of the LED, to keep it safe.

I haven’t followed this whole thread, but to me the batlights are ridiculous. The light is in the wrong end and they don’t look like anything but weapons.

I have a 6D cell Maglite, it looks like a torch because it is a torch, yet I could stop a herd of stampeding mammoths with that thing.
Most effective stance is to hold the light with your finger on the button, and the weight resting on your shoulder. It is perfectly balanced like that, practical as a torch, yet ready to swing very effectively.

Try that with a batlight and you are illuminating something behind you, and look ridiculous. You can’t illuminate something in front of you and still swing it effectively, and if you do hit something with it it’s now broken.

I would support a 6D Maglite look-alike in thick steel, designed to dissipate heat from a modern drop-in and accept 2x26650 but also come with sleeves to take 2x18650. It should have shortcuts to 1000+ lumens (preferably much more, like an L6) , strobe, and moonlight. The rest of the length can be a sealed compartment for red traffic wand/spare batteries/sand/lead/grenade……

Defiantly? “I don’t care what the laws are… I’m gonna buy one, damnit!!” :smiley:

I was gonna suggest something like that. Use a 6D loaded up with a pair of 32650s, and have 4 nice heavy dummy-cells at the tail.

Or if someone wants to machine it, just redo the actual Mag’s body in SS, and let the head screw right on.

Here’s your Maglite flashlight/shotgun/club. CSG Maglite Flashlight Gun -The Firearm Blog

Good eye Lightbringer…. you picked right up on it!! :wink:

I’ll definitely defiantly buy one…… :smiley::smiley: … :+1:
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But make it strong & rugged……

With only one shot, and the barrel pointing towards you, that looks more like a suicide light.

The .410 doesn’t help any with that appearance. As a very funny guy once said:

Not that I would volunteer to stand in front of a .410, but I also wouldn’t choose it as a defense caliber/gauge.

Man shoots self with maglite! Discovers 3 years after shooting himself, is in perfect health!

I can't see this project taking off. You can already club someone with a maglite. BLF doesn't need bad publicity. Whats the point?

If someone can’t figure out where the ‘business end’ is & observe the proper incorporated safety designs… they surely don’t need it. :smiley:

The .410 might not be a first choice… but as a CQC backup… it would be very deadly with the correct load.

It might not take off…. time will tell. :+1:
But if it does take off, the worry of “bad publicity” for a self defense light should be of no concern IMO.

And the point, as I see it; would be to make a ‘Bat Light’ that is super sturdy & serviceable as both a light & a bat. In other words…. after you strike something it is still in one piece & still works. :wink: