Copper S2+ limited edition

Glad Simon is making another batch. I forgot about getting back to this one for too long. Is it just me, or does this thing seem to be screaming for a Triple 219B?

stupid question… I generically ordered these (spot/flood) in XML… Is the best output found with the XPL HI?

HD is better for extracting as much lumenage as possible, while HI is better for throw at the expense of raw output.

is it for sale?

Is what for sale? Or do you mean: does Convoy sell these?

Convoy sells 18350 tubes in: black, grey, red, blue, green, and desert tan for $4.07/pc. NOT in copper.

There’s also the clear version, which is basically with the ano removed with a coating.

I really hope Simon will make up some short S2+ body tubes for the new colors.
The purple looks amazing!

I will concur that those 60deg floody lens replacements on Simon's website (here) work well if you want to smooth out the default beam. I've got the new cyan and orange on order, will wait to see if I want to mod those as well.

Got mine today.

Album with pictures

What would be the best LED (or LEDs) in that light?

If you don’t mind my asking, what was the cost of that copper host?
And how long was delivery time?

3 weeks to middle EU. I got regular version with normal price. Just already assumed that it’ll be a home for high cri emitter :wink:

should I have gone XPL HI… I didnt even think about LED options. I want max blast fyi

Got mine today.

I immediately threw in triple cu pill from kiriba-ru in there and then i immediately decided that it is way too heavy.

Then i went the other route. Stock pill and single Nichia 219C 2700k. It is far from the 3000 lumen output that the triple xpl setup could provide but at least it is more tolerable in terms of weight.

I also decided that the big Kiriba triple pill would be too heavy, so mine got a quad E21a 4000k R9080 setup with LD-A4 driver at 6 amps. Also added a two-channel lighted tailcap, warm-white/orange, to finish the look. Had a pretty bad donut hole so I wound up with DC Fix on the glass, its a bit floodier than I’d like and I’ll probably look for an optic or something instead, but overall I’m really happy with the build.





Now that is tasty and fits the theme perfectly.

Awesome job Mark.

How is the output on these leds compared to lets say 219C triple setup at same current?

emarkd, thanks for posting those great pics! I’m planning to do an E21A quad for the S2+ also but wasn’t sure what optics would work but I’m surprised the stock reflector fits the quad emitters. Please post if you find better optics/reflector without the donut hole.

Btw, that lighted tail switch really goes well with the copper!

I think I need to say that weight difference between stock single led brass pill and my triple copper pill is 22-23gr.

Thanks for the kind words all, I’m enjoying this build. At the same current the output seems comparable, but the E21a + DC Fix setup is much floodier so its kinda hard to judge. A triple behind either a 10507 or 10511 has much more candela for sure. Its also worth noting that 219b or c is capable of handling more current, so you can get a lot more output from those builds if you push them harder.

As for optics, I’ve already placed an order with Convoy for some of the single optics he stocks, just to experiment. I needed some other things anyway, so I’ll follow up in a couple of weeks when those arrive.

Are more of these going to be released?