I had very little dialogue through AE. I filed a PayPal dispute and gave them as much info and reasoning as possible…
PayPal never asked me for file evidence although I submitted the link on Lygte's review and comments on 3 vents V's. 4 vents. I hope you paid via PayPal. They can be the better authority in disputes.
Because I got the batteries of some value, I did not want the whole amount back. Though the dealer is dishonest, I wanted to remain honest. Maybe I had the advantage of losing the dispute later than you. Ali already had information from other customers, joined them together. In several similar disputes at the same time, it was clear that this was not a coincidence. To admit, it was my tactic. Wait a while for Ali to resolve similar disputes, not to claim the full price and not to post the ongoing dispute here. Only after the announcement of the result I wrote here.
The vendor has made a major mistake by forging batteries that have a specific positive pole look. He also incorrectly copied the fonts on the battery. If he used a battery with the same positive pole as the original and the same font, nobody knows anything.
The batteries will only be used in devices that have a maximum current of 2C capacity. So up to about 6 amps.
If you get fakes, always dispute and don’t pay a cent. This scamming will go on forever if you let it.
I agree. It is very shameful the way they sell counterfeit goods. I understand if they bought them and didn’t know, but when it’s obviously a fake, and people tell you and show you it’s fake, time to pull the ad down, or change the description
The problem is that any device you buy - power bank, different toys and other electronic devices and the like can be fake batteries. I bought a power bank from a reputable vendor who claimed that Samsung batteries are inside and the capacity is 5200 mAh. The real capacity was 1,000 mAh. I believe the dealer did not know. This is a huge e-shop. There are many products you use and do not know what’s inside. So I will use the purchased batteries, I will remember that I do not know the manufacturer and I will be more careful.
Anker. FTW
AliExpress reviewed my case
They were fair, looked at my video, and pictures and decided in my favor. They went against the sellers counter offer. They do not want to support counterfeit goods, they just need proof that the cells are not as described.
It’s how I wrote. They now know that there are several of the same cases, so they decide for the benefit of their customers.
edit:
Aliexpress has returned the money to my account. Fair behavior.
I have 30 Q’s button tops with two vents/legs purchased from liion wholesale.But I am guessing that’s because liion wholesale welds the button on the 30Q cell.
Yeah, button-tops are just over-wraps of flat-top cells, so unless you unwrap the outer layer and pull off the welded button, then you can’t compare it to a genuine cell.
The fact that I bought these from liion wholesale,I don’t have to go through the trouble of a tear down and be at peace
So guys, I opened a dispute with Aliexpress and attached the test pics above. Look what I’ve got. (it was a table)
Problems with the order Judgement from AE
resistance does not match Valid - -
Print letters problem Valid - -
counterfeit goods Invalid
The seller has provided the authorization file from the brand owner / purchase invoice to proved the item was original Since the seller has provided the authorization file from the brand owner / purchase invoice to proved the item was original, we would like you to provide counter evidences as the official inspection statement from the brand owner. ”
So what are these cells?
Obviously, they are genuine fake cells.
Too bad you can’t ask AE to provide a certification from a forensic document examiner regarding the purchase invoice from the “brand owner”.
They could indeed buy 100-200pcs original cells and show that invoice as proof every time someone opens dispute for selling fake cells (1000s of them).
Ali offered either a 30% refund or returning the things (at my cost, of course) and full refund. Obviously, I agreed to the first option.
I think someone reported buying genuine cells from them. So they didn’t have to buy them just to be able to show invoices. It’s natural that they had it from before they turned rogue.
And, BTW, they didn’t show invoice in my VTC5A case.
Of course it does. In every trading. Buy 1000 pieces original from the manufacturer. Sell 100,000 fake and proof of purchase invoice for original goods.
As I’ve already written. My tactic was to apply for a partial refund (50). It was clear to me that my success in the dispute would be much higher than when I asked for a 100 refund. As it turned out, it was right.
I haven’t read back through this whole thread but some issues may stem from the fact that you are buying buttons tops which are notorious at giving bad resistance readings.
I was quoted at around 2.50-3 USD for the whole price per each 30Q cell when i checked and i can only imagine Liitokala would get an even better price then me.
Also keep in mind that SDI do have a warehouse in China so some cells are made in China. For all we know Liitoakala could be ordering button tops straight from the factory thus the setup is different?