Massive fraud on 18650s in the Littokala Aliexpress stores!

Yes, it is a lie. But as I said, Aliexpress does not care about anything written in description area if “Counterfeit product” is selected for the dispute.

From your link:

So if you want to open a dispute for fake cells, make sure not to select “Counterfeit” option. It will lead your dispute having at least 1 invalid claim.

it’s very telling to me how they phrase things… Grammatically off, but it seems they want you to believe these are Samsung 30q cells from Liitokala factory store…
but then they fall back on the brand name is liitokala for 30q?
Interestingly enough, I peeled back the littokala sticker on “their” brand of battery… Printed in the same font as every else… Samsung… The label was applied to cover that part up

Funny thing is I ordered from this store before and I got genuine cells.

Sadly aliexpress is only way to buy at normal prices :cry:

I’ve bought from the Sunway Store on Aliexpress, and got genuine cells. I would not risk it again anytime soon, though, as I suspect these counterfeits are making their way into more than just the Factory Store. Ali is really hit & miss. I’ve had good luck, and I’ve had horrible luck.

can’t believe that anyone would buy from Aliexpress again
just opt out and avoid headaches induced by greed

I’m going to go with Simon and Convoy lights…
I might order a red white and blue, make one patriot and sell the mismatched ones off at a discount…

Guys, if you want some real legit stores that I have ordered from, I would recommend the liitokala Official Store and Sunway store since I have bought cells from them, and confirmed they were legit.

I bought 6x 30Qs from the Sunway store:
https://sunway.aliexpress.com/store/3173029?spm=2114.search0104.3.5.1848cb3eLEeQ51

I bought 6x LG F1L from the liitokala Official Store:
https://liitokalahongkong.aliexpress.com/store/217753?spm=2114.12010615/itm2home-3.1000002.18.783e40b5HMjMSM

That liitokala Official Store is the REAL one. All others can be considered much more risky to order from.

Greed? Maybe. But I’m overspending on this hobby already and I prefer to cut costs by buying cheap as opposed to not buying.
It causes some headaches. But it’s worth it for me.

Will not buy from that store again. Will buy from other stores though.

The liitokala Official Store has now also 30Q pictures with four wings as product pics.

And sb. from Poland acknowledge getting 4 wings 30Q.

I bought the batteries here. Video and Photos on page 12.

Well… $29 for 4x30Qs is not exactly a good deal.

From EU i’d rather buy from Nkon.nl.

It is if it’s about the only place that will ship (and free, too). I’ve got the VTC6’s from that store earlier this year, and they’re genuine (cheaper than the 30Q’s for some reason, too). If you factor in shipping (free), it’s a decent deal.

Personally, I’d avoid the 30Q’s from anywhere on Ali, until the mess with the fakes is sorted out. Maybe the fakes aren’t in every store, but if the Official Store is showing the 4-prong fakes, it has me concerned.

@patmurris, I ordered from them when there a sale.

That sale is over, and prices are back up.

And of course if you are from the Eu I would order from nkon. However, in Canada, we have almost nothing.

Sorry, i forgot to factor in the shipping problem with some parts of the world… So far we have been rather lucky over here.

How you doin' fellows?

Right now I am undergoing two dispute procedures for both 4x 30Q and 4x 25R packs. 30Q cells purchased from liitokala Faketory Store (725333) and 25R ones from lietokala Official Store (217753).

30Q cells have 4x lobed top, higher internal resistance and capacity about matches, but not as consistent as genuine cells. The 25Rs have a 3x lobed (but different) top, higher capacity, higher internal resistance and also lack genuine cells' consistency.

I've opted for “product not as described” and half refunds, sellers do not seem very cooperative despite this though.

We'll see how it goes, but I think it's pretty much nailed down.

Did you thought… if getting a PayPal refund is easy in this regard, did I found a mine of free li-ion cells? :-D

Cheers :-)

@Barkuti
You posted you wrote to Samsung about the four hole cap. Did they respond?


Can remember, case Seems like I got a six-pack of counterfeit/fake Samsung ICR18650-30B cells :-/. Unforfunately, Samsung never replied. I'd like to believe something different, but I think AliExpress right now is pandemonium ground for rogue li-ion battery sellers. And fuck with that. :-|

Cheers :-)

I’ve got 4 NCR18650B with tabs from LiitoKala Official Flagship Store
I suspect them being counterfight. The wrapper is bit different (tipical wrinkles on both sides) and letters fonts are different too. Before any disputes I’ll do discharge test with curve plot in parallel with unused geniue I’ve got two years ago . This will definitively show what cell is really inside.
For additional comparation I’ve ordered same from VariCore Official Store but it will take time…

Recorded in a single unrehearsed shot to be used as dispute evidence. Sorry for my rough pronunciation. :-)

Have fun!

I bought four. They’ve taken like two and a half months to get here. The worst shipping period I’ve ever experienced from a seller. They’re just as everyone else has described, fake but I literally CBA’d to start a dispute for the sake of less than a tenner. I’ve left feedback stating they’re not genuine.