Test / review: TrustFire TF18650 3000mAh (Flame)

I don't think potential scamming manufacturer would have any profit by making fake Trustfire batt. - They are already cheap cells.

But, who knows - Chinese can pull any trick available to make a few $.

DX overview for this TF 3000 actuallyl states that it’s capacity is 2500-2600mah. Same capacity as tested in this thread.

Hehe there's forum requests at DX by the clients there, why wouldn't anyone show them the link before they actually had it for sale.

Actually one of the guys there says for the 26650 that the cells are rated 500mAh but they tested them to be 4000mAh. They may have very well not tested them, as on Taobao there's the same mention.

BTW there's the mention of a 3.2A max current discharge on the 26650 TFflames.

You think they don't see HKJ web site ;)

We all should link to his web site to spread a word , and more info to naive buyers who still think that Ultrafire is good 18650 batt. manufacturer.

How do you useTaobao when is all in Chinese. Google translator?

I meant HKJ has very informative test/review website about all lithium based batteries, chargers, flashlights. Maybe the best currently.


You just type in names, no translator. Then you translate what you need, like a description for example.

Lol, we will have to learn Chinese soon.

Did you find any difference in price?

The prices on TB are useless to be compared as they do not contain shipping like DX or MF.

Looks like a copy of a post from CPF where americans hate anything which is not US made. Pathetic.

Most of the best 18650 cells are made in Asia.

With all due respect I wouldn't agree with your statement.

I just received 4 of these batteries from MF. I'll have to test them and see what kind of capacity they are putting out. I was really hoping that these would perform as HKJ's original test. I'm traveling at the mo so it'll be a while

The 2400mAh Trustfire flames were widely faked, with underperforming cells and falsely advertised as protected when they were not.

and good to know when buying these cells.

It would be even better if somebody of your experience post something like guide how to spot them with pictures.

Probably would help many people.

There are a couple of good threads around that cover it in detail. Just search for fake trustfires. The biggest problems were an eBay seller and then more recently Dino Direct.

Making a blanket statement like that does not make you come off any better. There is nothing wrong with being patriotic with regards to the things you chose to spend your money on and I can respect anyone's personal views on that. I'm American and proud of it, but I tend to buy what's the best value regardless of where it is made.

I would agree with Space Cowboy in that there's an old saying: "You get what you pay for". Interpret that however you want, but I do believe it's a saying or statement that has merit.

I've tried some of these TF 3000 18650s as well, my first batch of 4 I ordered from Manafont, 1 was DOA. I ordered 4 more and they all worked but I haven't measured anything yet. I have a Pila IBC Charger that I believe is one of the best chargers out there, it wasn't cheap compared to ultra/trustfire level chargers, but to me well worth it.

Recently I decided to order a batch of Xtar 2600s that are the Sanyo Cells...looking forward to getting those just to see if I can tell a perceivable difference in actual use versus measurements.

Just a thought, but perhaps the next set of tests should be the MF TF Flames 2400 mah to see how they compare. If they, too, have dropped from other tests, then perhaps TF is re-badging the 2400's as 3000's.

Your first sentence could be said against SpaceCowboy as well. A statement without any facts, no

measurements to back up the claim of lottery, no personal experiences with the brands in question,

just a blanket statement.

I did not express anything wrong by being patriotic, thats all right with me. But I think I see a growing

tendency here of the CPF bullshit where anything from HK and budget is crap. What I find important

you said better yourself: "Best value" Not just name brands. I can back that up with several years

use of DX, KD, MF, name brands and recycled laptop batteries. Some of the latter have been surprisingly

good.

Well in this case I see it's more about perception or interpretation as I did not see what you see in Space Cowboy's statements. Maybe I have a thicker skin than you, I don't know...guess we can agree to disagree there. Just that my point was is if you have a displeasure for what you see as BS mentality that we've seen over at CPF (which as I've said before is still a fantastic resource of a website despite the politics and mentalities over there) and then essentially insinuating that Americans are like that (which I interpret as a blanket statement), just to me doesn't make you come off any better. I don't condone or agree with much of that kind of mentality that we both can agree is a bad thing that happens over at CPF, so often I try to take the high road. I say to each their own and leave it at that.

That said, I myself am a bit of a duality...I buy plenty of cheap stuff and from all of the same places you mentioned and I've also purchased some of extremely expensive custom flashlights as well as owning brands like Surefire, which I am proud is an American company who still makes their flashlights here in the good old US of A (though now they say "designed and assembled in the USA with domestic and foreign components", which is to be expected these days). My favorite budget brand is Solarforce and I definitely think they provide arguably the best quality to price ratio and I have a boatload of their lights.

As for batteries, I don't think I've come across a USA made protected 18650 yet (Space Cowboy did say all the good batteries come from Asia)...all of mine are either Trustfire, Ultrafire, KD or Solarforce. I just ordered some Xtar 2600s based on recommendations here, but haven't received them yet.

Just got 10 of these from MF.

Average capacity at 1.0 amp draw from 4.2v to 3.0v on Turnigy:

2148mah.

WEAK. Wish mine would have tested as well as HKJ's.

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