I had this same problem weeks ago with a similar purchase. Bought a 4-pack of Samsung 25R cells, received a pack of fake green wrapped cells which scored higher and more inconsistent capacities than genuine 25R cells:
I later measured their DC IR and got 35.4mΩ on average, which is close to 50% higher figure compared to that of genuine 25R cells.
The fake cells' top was also tri-lobed, but with a different geometry, bulged and different shade of green wraps, etc. The AliExpress Case Management Team'Tards :-D did not recognized the cells as different, but the capacity test was enough to back up my “product not as described” for half refund claim.
Believe it or not, doing this matters. It matters because this actually makes the seller lose money and puts the AE Case Management Team on guard over them.
Received 5 18650B from liitokala Official Store.
Fakes: - 5 prongs instead of 3, different font and spacing of the text printed on them, rather negligent wrapping, smaller capacity, they overheated.
Opened dispute on AE with pictures and video.
The seller tried to convince AE that he has original documents from the producer and proposed me to return the batteries and to get full refund.
I refused.
AE considered only one of my argumets - the smaller capacity of the batteries (aprox 3200 mAh) invalidating the others.
Finally, today AE decided in my favor: I keep the goods, the seller must fully refund me. Yey!
At the risk of opening old wounds, I just checked the “LiitoKala Official Store” #217753. As far as I can tell, they have removed the references to battery brand names. Their 30Q is now a “Liitokala 30Q brand”, HG2 is a “Liitokala HG2”, …
I guess that settles the question of whether the cells were original Samsung, LG, Panasonic or copies / fakes.
This was not necessarily the case a good bunch of months ago, last year maybe, where I could get a couple good shipments. But it obvious is they've fully turned to the dark side.
Seen some inconsistencies with the LiitoKala wrapped 26650s already, but this may be due to shady seller selling factory rejects. Aditionally, they have never claimed what 26650 or 21700 cell they're rewrapping. Better keep an eye over them in any case (or nothing :-D at all).
I do not think they believe they're fully wrong doing, and this of course has to do with their blemished morale/way of doing things with regards to selling what they claim for. If they were willing to sell well they would sell these cells with their factory wraps or at least claim what brand name and model they're rewrapping. I am not straight willing to buy a product for which I cannot easily resort to datasheets or unbiased tests, and this is exactly what they're doing to their own products when they're selling them under fake wraps: covering 'em with shite.
The reason why I went back and looked at the store’s site is that I bought some HG2’s from them early this year. I tested them on my Lii-500 and they seemed to be OK so I charged them to 4 V and stored them in 4 cell plastic cases. When I took them out to check them this morning they were at 1.51 - 2.75 volts. They were never used.
I won’t waste my money buying anything from the “Liitokala Official Store” again.
Yesterday received varicore
30q and after testing i have to say fake. Under 1amp load voltage dropped to 3.6v immediately. Compared to lyggte.info it should be on 4volts about half hour when discharging 1amp
Nope. I got fake NCR18650B’s from them. Roughly 2400mAh, 5 prongs on the + pole, I think someone else here received those.
Well, maybe they _are _the genuine store, but they sell fakes.
Let me get this straight, two¢¢ and others: what makes you think there's an “official” AliExpress LiitoKala store? As far as I know, there's a single AliExpress store which is linked in their official site: http://www.liitokala.com.cn
Scroll down to the bottom, you'll find their phone and fax numbers and just below them two banners with these links:
https://liitokala.1688.com/ Shenzhen Xin Shengli Power Co Ltd, this looks like some inland market website, they look like winners in these photos but the way they're managing their business makes me think they're a bunch of losers.
I don’t think there is any way to tell what (if any) is the actual Liitokala website or aliexpress store. Many here have reported problems with all of the aliexpress stores, and anyone can set up a website.
Nope. Well, maybe they _sell _fakes, but they are genuine.
Awhile back, these two + poles were shown on the same product page.
‘Pig in a poke’ means I do not yet know what are how good these rewraps are.
Can’t help wondering if my chances are better buying here or Elsa’s Big Smile Liitokala Office Store?
Barkuti, are you kidding me? I diligently pasted the given name of this store. That’s it.
The name presented on that website is, in fact, LiitoKala Official Flagship Store.
Just like that. Plain as day. I won’t bother clicking your tantrum links, because the name LiitoKala Official Flagship Store will still exist. And they will still be rewrapping cells made elsewhere.
And some of these will be fakes.
How would I know what is legally official scrolling around in AliExpress?
Let me get this straight, Barkuti, how would you know what is legally official scrolling around in AliExpress? I like your on point flashlight knowledge, but why waste our time with your screeds.