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I still dont understand what this mode is for and how it is useful. I understand the tint changes and you can go directly from cool to warm in a single ramp but how does that affect how the lantern operates when you are in either the individual cool or warm modes…. Can someone explain?

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Instead of selling two versions, one CW and one WW and having people complain the CW is too blue or the WW is too yellow and why is there no NW, etc… they let you choose the color you want. It gives their lantern an advantage compared to their competitors. It’s an advantage for them in that they only make one version. You can’t mistakenly ship the wrong tint to a customer which would cause them to lose money “fixing” the mistake. :wink:

I think that answers your question. Let me know if I misunderstood.

If I understand correctly from this thread, you can configure the warm light mode to use a mix of the cool emitters and the warm emitters, say run the CW leds at 40% and the WW leds at 60,instead of running the WW leds at 100 and the CW leds at 0%. That creates an intermediate tint that may be more pleasant for some eyes than the extremes.

There is no separated warm light mode, it’s the mixed/custom mode that happens to be set by default as 100% warm.

I’m still perplexed by the confusing UI (I just leave it on WW and just tweak the brightness if I really need to), but I think there’s WW mode, CW mode, and mixed-mode, so 3.

I think that’s correct. You can switch between CW and the custom mode back and forth and each have their own brightness level. I’ll try to make a video of it.

It is giving my Note 4 fits trying to film it. It may take a few days so I can try some different techniques.

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Well Kinda…………….

If mine is just ‘on’ I have it on lowest WW (reportedly 24/7= 3 weeks) and if I need more light I tap it once to go to the highest CW… then when I am though I tap it once to go back to the low WW. I leave it on most of the time and recharge every couple of weeks.

If the “third” mode is just a mixed tint mode that doesnt affect the other CW and WW modes, then I understand. Just seems I read somewhere about changing & saving a tint, Im still not sure that is possible or if so if has anything to do with the other two(CW/WW) modes.

Thanks for your 2 cents ………

@JasonWW……. I just replace my Note2 with a Note9 ……… boy what an upgrade!

discovered a possibly dangerous flaw & fire/explosion hazard with this T1 lantern. Measured the inside battery tube temperature of 67 degrees C+ ( read post #11 >> DBSAR Lantern Mini-Review: -Zanflare T1 (UPDATE: Second T1 failed! - #11 by DBSAR

Yeah guys. Do not buy the Zanflare T1 anymore!

Regular <10A capable cells are not rated at more than 60°C operation.

Going above that temp is dangerous not only for big cycle life degradation, but also safety.

Samsungs, and perhaps other cells, are rated up to 75degrees Celsius

quote:

9.4 Heating test
Test method: To heat up the standard charged cell at heating rate 5℃ per minute up to
130℃ and keep the cell in oven for 10 minutes.
Criteria: No fire, and no explosion.

That does not mean it is good for capacity degradation.

Also, high drain cells can tolerate higher temperatures than low drain cells.

Laptop type cells/very high capacity cells are only rated up to 60°C.

You will lose capacity a lot faster.

Oh well, personally I wouldn’t lose sleep over a $5 cell nowadays by fearing capacity loss in that case.

I can’t hold my Acebeam K60 when in Turbo mode till the 4 cells can no longer sustain it as its scorching hot. Human hands are lot more not resistant to heat compared to these electrical/electronic components.

Not everybody will have that go as safely as that. ( as on my you tube channel i force-vented various 18650 cells using a propane torch, some took a lot of heat & time, while some of the older weaker ones let go in seconds of heat contact. I was testing my T1 earlier with a older panasonic 3000mah cell, and after a hour running on high W/W mode, i began to notice the sweet-smell of death from it. i took the cell out and it was gassing that sweet smell & extremely hot. (tossed the battery outside in a metal pail.) 18650’s and high temperatures are not a good mix regardless if its a new or old cell. it shortens the life of the cell, and if its a damaged cell or an unstable one then its a hazard in this lantern. To have the battery in a metal tube that is directly a heat-sink for the LEDs is a bad idea in the first place regardless of the argument.

This is true, but this lantern probably won’t go beyond the temp you have tested, just well below a good cell’s temp limit.

Repeat from DSBARs thread:

No one should be jumping on the bandwagon until they get all the facts first.

We need to hear from the manufacturer about their thermal limit tests. It’s possible DBSAR has a malfunctioning unit. Probably not, but we need to gather up all the facts and data before condemning a product.

It is actually not that bad of a design seeing as most flashlights are made similarly. If you leave a flashlight running long enough the heat near the LED will travel down through the length of the battery tube and it will heat up the battery just the same. I guess the big difference between a flashlight and this lantern is that one has an exposed battery tube so that the surrounding air can pull heat away from it. The lantern doesn’t have any way to circulate the air around it’s battery tube.

It’s quite possible that this entire situation can be fixed/corrected by using a simple insulating sleeve around the inner battery tube to prevent a battery from touching the metal walls and absorbing that heat.

A long-term solution would be for the driver design to be tweaked to step down the brightness at a certain temperature.

Yeah, that’s a pretty big jump. I’ve only had my Note 4 for 3 years. I bought it right before the Note 5 came out. I didn’t like the 5’s lack of features.

Were you as shocked as I was to find out they don’t subsidize the cost like they used to? In exchange for a 2 year commitment I only paid like $250 for the Note 4. Now you have to pay the full price. Sucks. :confounded:

I guess I’ll be getting a Note 9 as well. What is up with these terrible stylus colors? You have to choose between an ugly yellow and an ugly lavender. I just want basic black. Lol

I see it as a two mode lamp:

1) is constant cool white and you can choose your brightness

2) you can choose the brightness and the color temperature. Default is WW

Operation:
A single tab switches between 1) and 2)

When you hold you can set your brightness.

A double tab sets 2) to WW and with hold you can set the temperatur. You must confirm with a single tab.

Sorry Jason, I just realized I misspoke…… I meant I upgraded to the Note8. I guess I said Note9 because of the current talk. Im not one that gets a new phone every couple of years but I really like the Note8. Ive heard the 9 is not much of an upgrade from the 8 but big things are predicted for the 10.