Again: Good value in 18650

[NightCrawl]

So.. noone heard about the new XTARs or received some of them?

I'm torn between Hi-Max and XTAR, but hasnt anyone here heard of those new XTARs?

[CheapThrills]

@brted

I just did some tests on some XTAR 2600's about 9 months old (probably only 10-20 cycles). I wanted to do a test so I could compare them against the new ones I have on the way. Only got about 2199 and 2294 mAh at 1 amp using Turnigy Accucell hobby charger down to 3V. Disappointing. I haven't used them that hard and would have thought they would hold up better than that. One of these (not sure which) measured 2472 mAh when I first got it.

Maybe I should test my own oldest Xtar 2600 to see, what it has.

It has been discharged mostly by 2,8A in short term use. Has never really gotten too empty for circuit to cut power.

Can´t remember, when I bought them...

e: 7-8 months ago and have been charging it now once a week.

[brted]

@NightCrawl

So.. noone heard about the new XTARs or received some of them?

I'm torn between Hi-Max and XTAR, but hasnt anyone here heard of those new XTARs?

CheapThrills said in the group buy thread (last post right now) that the new ones seem to perform as well as the old ones. Also be aware that they are fatter and don't fit in all lights.

[CheapThrills]

@brted

@NightCrawl

So.. noone heard about the new XTARs or received some of them?

I'm torn between Hi-Max and XTAR, but hasnt anyone here heard of those new XTARs?

CheapThrills said in the group buy thread (last post right now) that the new ones seem to perform as well as the old ones.

Yes but I can only measure capacity at 1A.

[NightCrawl]

Okay, thank you. So XTAR it is. Got a good feeling with those. :)

From what I've read, they will fit in my UF980L and solarforce L2P.

Again, thanks to all of you!

[heyho]

I have some flames coming from Manafont(my first 18650), but from reading on here recently, who knows what might turn up!

[NightCrawl]

The TFs arent bad, I got 4 TF3000 from MF and 2 TF2400 from DX (those are fake, tho I dont think they are bad) and they all work very well. But its just as it is when you start with something new.. my first flashlights cost less than 10$, now I spend multiple times of that. So naturally, I'm willing to spend more on batterys, too. There is always something better.. always!

[gearjunkie]

@NightCrawl

Okay, thank you. So XTAR it is. Got a good feeling with those. :)

From what I've read, they will fit in my UF980L and solarforce L2P.

If you have the purple XTAR 2600, it may not fit your L2P. I have a couple of those purple ones and none would fit the new L2P I received about a week ago.

[weiser]

@gearjunkie

If you have the purple XTAR 2600, it may not fit your L2P. I have a couple of those purple ones and none would fit the new L2P I received about a week ago.

That's a fact. NEW XTAR 2600's will not fit in the NEW Solarforce L2P. They will fit in the older L2P's, however. I have both older and newer XTAR 2600's along with older and newer L2P's so I've tested this.

[NightCrawl]

Well.. I'll hope they fit and if they dont, I'll buy a couple of Hi-Max too and retire my TF2400.. :D

[Blinders]

i just recieved some purple xtars from pandawill (they shipped from within the us and for two new xtars it was 13.50 with free shipping. got them in 6 days. 2100 did a discharge test on one of his purple xtars with pics in another thread (search "purple xtar" and the post will come up. he got around 2200 mah i think. cant remember exactly, and im on my phone right now or i would post the link to the thread.

Edit> Here's 2100s dishcharge test of the purple xtar 2600: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/4453?page=1 Post #77 He got 2288mAh

[NightCrawl]

I was just told that szwholesale dont sell to germany because they have an exlusive dealer here.

16€ + 3,90€ shipment (free shipment when order > 17€)....

I think I'll order Hi-Max then.

[LuxorN]

Yesterday I received 2 pairs of the new purple XTARs (ordered from Serena).

First charge test:

(charged @1A from 2.8v @IMAX B6AC)

No discharge test yet...

[raccoon]

I mostly have TrustFire 2400 Flames from DinoDirect. Somehow all of mine are real, but I mainly use my pair of Hi-Max 2600s because they're better. You can save a little money on the Hi-Max by making an offer to pingyi.co.ltd on eBay.

[CheapThrills]

@CheapThrills

@brted

I just did some tests on some XTAR 2600's about 9 months old (probably only 10-20 cycles). I wanted to do a test so I could compare them against the new ones I have on the way. Only got about 2199 and 2294 mAh at 1 amp using Turnigy Accucell hobby charger down to 3V. Disappointing. I haven't used them that hard and would have thought they would hold up better than that. One of these (not sure which) measured 2472 mAh when I first got it.

Maybe I should test my own oldest Xtar 2600 to see, what it has.

It has been discharged mostly by 2,8A in short term use. Has never really gotten too empty for circuit to cut power.

Can´t remember, when I bought them...

e: 7-8 months ago and have been charging it now once a week.

Discharging at the moment, going to finish soon.

Using Imax B6, 4,20V -> 2,70V with 1A.

EDIT: Measured capacity of 2360mAh

[NightCrawl]

@CheapThrills: I was thinking about getting some kind of charger like the imax too, but I read it gives wrong voltage etc. and has to be modified to work properly? Are there good hobby chargers for about 30$?

[CheapThrills]

@NightCrawl

@CheapThrills: I was thinking about getting some kind of charger like the imax too, but I read it gives wrong voltage etc. and has to be modified to work properly? Are there good hobby chargers for about 30$?

IMO Imax gives accurate-enough measurement readings to hobby use.

I would recommend getting an Xtar WP2 II (~20$) for charging purposes. I use my Imax only for charging more rare setups and for testing. Most common battery types have theis own dedicated chargers.

[NightCrawl]

I've got a charger for my 18650s, I only think about getting something to test the capacity.. :)

[CheapThrills]

@NightCrawl

I've got a charger for my 18650s, I only think about getting something to test the capacity.. :)

Well, I don´t know of anything to fit in that budget of 30$. Seems like quite a lot of users here have Imax.

I know some guys have far better equipment to test and get for example discharge graphs but I think they cost some or FAR more than that.

[MixoMaxo]

there are others way but probably the hobby charger is the cheapest/easiest solution

just consider that the imax b6 and clones can test a discharge up to 1A, b8 and clones up to 5A, sometime, especially with cheap clones, the result is not very precise due to the cheap resistors used