FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

Someone has the patience of a Saint to do THAT list! :+1:

Amen to that!! :+1:

A big ā€™thank youā€™ to pepinfaxera!! . :beer:

I agreeā€¦ā€¦ good on ya pepinā€¦ā€¦ even tho I got off the list months back, still watchin the thread

Thanks to you.

And, excuse me, excuse me:

Iā€™m not very communicative

Language problem. I donā€™t know English language.

Greetings .

This could be interesting, just to see how it pans out.

The Q8 had a similarly massive interest list, and, remarkably, a very high uptake from those on it.

Sufficient that it continues in production today.

Of course the first batch had a few niggling problems, but these were, I think, sorted out as well as could be hoped, thanks to swift feedback from BLF, The Millerā€™s determination, and Thorfireā€™s responsiveness in swiftly doing a little re-design and re-making a part (and replacing the production manager).

Due to serendipity I missed the first-batch problems.

The Miller had to take a chance on signing off the Q8 when he did, the team could have fannied on forever over the minutiae, it was very interesting technically, but there was a market window, beyond which interest would have slowly died, credibility been lost, reputational damage to BLF, loss of an interested supplier (Thorfire/Sofirn).

My suggestion: Build no more than say 50 in the first batch and sell them at a really good unrepeatable unmissable price. First come, first served. No warranty, but as much support as can be run from China with someone coordinating. We wonā€™t get Wim, but is anyone else prepared to step-up ?

Make it clear that these are actually pre-production prototypes, and would best be bought by experienced people who are prepared for a few bumps and squeaks in exchange for a great price, and the opportunity to improve the thing, if necessary.

Then wait for feedback here. Give it at least two months. Then reflect, make any changes that seem sensible, and build the main run.

This is how we do things in Aerospace, typically A model, B model, C model (all internal development), P model (clients first sight of the thing, and chance to evaluate and complete qualification, not to be used in a serious situation, unless needs must), then full-scale ramp-up. But this should not be necessary for a simple torch.

Simply making only two pre-production prototypes, then sending them to only two people, most heavily involved (and least likely to be able to critique their own work neutrally), and who seem to have gone off-grid, does not seem to me the brightest of ideas.

I also suspect that there ought to be some final tuning of firmware, by the Goddess, to suit whatever emitter choices have actually been made (still unknown). When (and how, without a couple of P-models) is that going to happen ?

Your welcome pepinfaxera, our pleasure!! :+1:

Do not worry about what you call a ā€œlanguage problemā€ā€¦. you are doing an amazing job. Especially since you do not know English!! . :slight_smile:

:beer:

Where do I sign up for those first 50 testers?! :smiley:

:+1:

Tom Tom, despite I understand your point of view and despite I agree that in an ideal world we would like to have fully tested an flawless flashlights for the more than 1600 interested members (only in BLF!!!), making a small batch for test, waiting another 2 months and then start ā€œfinalā€ production, would delay this even more.

I guess some things were learnt in the Q8 and other BLF projects, but samples/prototypes are being delivered to some members and are being ā€œtestedā€ (even if we donā€™t actually know the resultsā€¦).

This is not rocket science, this is a $30-$35 flashlight, that may come out with or without flaws! It shall be respected as something that will be paid and as something that must work at full power & specs , of course, but if when the time has come and everything is ready for production we need to wait some more months for reports to be doneā€¦it will take even more time to get the flashlight. :disappointed:

My opinion onlyā€¦

Sorry, I can't wait any longer.

Just checking in. Hope all isgoing well.

Put me down for one please

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How many flashlights do you want in total? ā€¦ x ā€¦ units? .

Two for me is correct. Much obliged.

Iā€™d take two units :slight_smile:

Welcome to the Forum,

In the next update, Iā€™ll put you on my list.

Just one please. Sorry for the duplicated post.

Come on guys....

Can we all please get back to the business of beating on Raccoon City?

Yeah, I still have dozens of razor sharp knives in my signature.

You can't possibly have that on a family-friendly forum like BLF...

Think about the children!

Iā€™m Raccoonophobicā€¦ can we please discuss about it guys ?

Iā€™m keen, add me to the list pls.