That is my problem with all of this lumen war going on right now. It is awesome to see competition, competition pushes innovation which is good. However with this huge lumen monsters they have to be near the limits of what 18650 is capable of on terms of output. Also this light reminds me of the X80 GT, huge lumen that last 29-30seconds.
I wish manufacturers would list max and sustained lumen output. AdventureSport did a great video comparing the Thrunite TN36 Limited vs X80GT and by far the X80GT won brightest however the TN36 was able to double lumen output sustained vs the X80GT.
This is all coming from a guy with the flashlights in the sig so I do like big lumen but 90k is wow lol
I need to give credit where it is due. The Imalent DX80 was the only flashlight in which the law enforcement (once by helicopter and once by patrol car) immediately paid attention and investigated with zeal every time I turned it on. I ended up cease using flashlights for nearly one year, and sold all my DX80’s entirely. I would call Imalent DX80 the Master of Disaster of flashlights. Crazy lumens matter.
If this sounds like the right super torch for you, I would recommend. :+1:
I mean some day it will be portable and affordable, but definitely not today
This flashlight is only for the top few of flashlight enthusiasts that love lumens (as opposed to the ones that love lux :P)
so 5000OTF lumens per emitter
5500 LED lumens on P2 bin this is roughly 7@6V
lets say 95% efficient driver
so we get 800W drawn from the batteries
this means 100W per VTC6
even on just 20A drawn from a fresh cell we get only about 75W
A 4000k 70.2 is running at 135lm/W at 5k lm.
As with almost all flashlights acebeam will probably be using a 5700K or cooler LED which will get higher lm/W.
Assuming something closer to 150lm/W the light will be drawing ~600W to get 90k lumens.
I’d love to have a light that does not have a proprietary battery pack, so that at least my expensive light is somewhat future proof after the pack has given up. I mean, it’s difficult for me to assume that we still have access to new Acebeam battery packs 3-5 years later. Yes there will be new lights, but nowadays i and my sons are still using our Xeno/Jetbeam/Fenix/Sunwayman XM-L/XP-G lights.
However, these are all high lumens very high drain lights. Matching is critical. Also, as the batts are loaded so hard, the drain is very fast so it’s almost certainly that they need 3A fast charging. With a 8-cell battery carrier light that means 2pcs of 3A capable Miboxer C4-12 or SkyRC MC3000 etc. There might be a need for 12pcs in the future, 18650 or 21700.
So in the interest of selling the light, they are probably not going to take away the charging port. But then including a charging port with 3A charging and DIY self-matching batteries with 8-12pcs in a very high battery drain application = a very critical aspect.
With 21700s, it’s going to throw in another set of complexity with regards to charging and battery sources accessibility wrt 18650 which is so widely available across several vendors.
And of course like it’s been mentioned, there is this 100Wh limit via air cargo that needs to be addressed, dealers can’t sell lights that cannot be easily and quickly (air) shipped. I don’t think people like to use sea shipping.
Other than the batteries aspect, we also have the heat dissipation aspect. Even with a 3kg chunk of aluminum it’s going to hit a brick wall as well, we need advances in air cooling, like the kind of efficiencies in our CPU coolers.
I guess the issues currently with regards to lumens war are not easily solvable. Unless 200lm/W emitters come into the picture next year.
really, the price will come down? how, the msrp on this thing says 729$… u cant really expect search lights of this size to be within 200$ range or ? maybe if u find a used one years old on ebay sure but brand new? even imalent and their crappy quality is over 600$…