Acebeam X70-GT 90,000 Lumens - 8*18650 - Active fan cooling

A) don’t ship cells with the light, buy them separately

B) increase LED efficiency

C) realize that you really don’t need 100k lumens

Will you be getting the X70-GT then?

I guess at least in bigger countries (with bigger population/markets), you can quite easily and quickly sell things and not at a huge loss.

I’ll go with option C, thanks! :heart_eyes:

I want 100k lumens if it doesn’t cost a lot money. :sunglasses:

I mean some day it will be portable and affordable, but definitely not today :stuck_out_tongue:
This flashlight is only for the top few of flashlight enthusiasts that love lumens (as opposed to the ones that love lux :P)

I have the best of both worlds currently :slight_smile:

21700 battery pack would be great. I have contacted acebeam and brought that to their attention.

Selling batteries separate is a great idea. You can’t ship by air over 100wh

so 5000OTF lumens per emitter
5500 LED lumens on P2 bin this is roughly 7@6V
lets say 95% efficient driver
so we get 800W drawn from the batteries
this means 100W per VTC6
even on just 20A drawn from a fresh cell we get only about 75W

A 4000k 70.2 is running at 135lm/W at 5k lm.
As with almost all flashlights acebeam will probably be using a 5700K or cooler LED which will get higher lm/W.
Assuming something closer to 150lm/W the light will be drawing ~600W to get 90k lumens.

I’d love to have a light that does not have a proprietary battery pack, so that at least my expensive light is somewhat future proof after the pack has given up. I mean, it’s difficult for me to assume that we still have access to new Acebeam battery packs 3-5 years later. Yes there will be new lights, but nowadays i and my sons are still using our Xeno/Jetbeam/Fenix/Sunwayman XM-L/XP-G lights.

However, these are all high lumens very high drain lights. Matching is critical. Also, as the batts are loaded so hard, the drain is very fast so it’s almost certainly that they need 3A fast charging. With a 8-cell battery carrier light that means 2pcs of 3A capable Miboxer C4-12 or SkyRC MC3000 etc. There might be a need for 12pcs in the future, 18650 or 21700.
So in the interest of selling the light, they are probably not going to take away the charging port. But then including a charging port with 3A charging and DIY self-matching batteries with 8-12pcs in a very high battery drain application = a very critical aspect.

With 21700s, it’s going to throw in another set of complexity with regards to charging and battery sources accessibility wrt 18650 which is so widely available across several vendors.

And of course like it’s been mentioned, there is this 100Wh limit via air cargo that needs to be addressed, dealers can’t sell lights that cannot be easily and quickly (air) shipped. I don’t think people like to use sea shipping.

Other than the batteries aspect, we also have the heat dissipation aspect. Even with a 3kg chunk of aluminum it’s going to hit a brick wall as well, we need advances in air cooling, like the kind of efficiencies in our CPU coolers.

I guess the issues currently with regards to lumens war are not easily solvable. Unless 200lm/W emitters come into the picture next year. :slight_smile:

That’s why I love the lumens war. Eventually the prices will come down as other brands catch up, and the light and UI quality will also improve.

really, the price will come down? how, the msrp on this thing says 729$… u cant really expect search lights of this size to be within 200$ range or ? maybe if u find a used one years old on ebay sure but brand new? even imalent and their crappy quality is over 600$…

I bet the X70GT will be $650 MAP, my Imalents are all good so far…even my DX80.

I think there are 3 reasons for not using removable cells in such huge power lights:

1. They don’t want users to kill cells/vent the cells by putting in fake Ultrafire cells.

2. They aren’t willing to put the effort into making high current contacts which can handle the load, while in fact, dual BeCu springs per cell would work quite well. The only problem would be the main contact that would have to carry 50A minimum.

3. Moneeeeeyyyyy.

If you think about that way 5-6 years ago how many lumens have the top models of Acebeam and Olight…etc. I think it was all under 10000 lumens. And for what price?
Now you can get an Astrolux MF01 with 10K lumens under 100$

The Acbeam X70 is MUCH larger and much more sophisticated than a MF01. Even if we don’t consider the development cost, material cost and shipping cost of an X70 or MS12 will not allow it to sell much cheaper than the current discounted price of the MS12 or they will lose money. Just the emitters alone are like $12 a piece if they are using top bin emitters, which I believe they are.

Am I compared MF01 to X70???
I just said that a few years ago you can buy mush less lumen/$. I don’t compared those two lights. I know they are in a completely different league.

Well, at least the jump on the lumens as a % is more than the jump on the price for the X70 -> X70GT.

Acebeam tries to let the word out so companies like Imalent will try to produce something around 90k, then Acebeam will eventually top that with X70-GT at at least 100k.

1000W output power.

That would not create a nuclear reactor, at all. I’m sure of it.

Keep in mind that this ad is FAKE according to Acebeam.