Mateminco X6S, Factory Triple

Tom Tom, the SS X6 and Cu X5 are Astrolux branded at Banggood and have recently been on the site. I’ve thought about gnabbing the little X5 a couple of times but man I have so man of these already, not so much the 5’s but I have 16 variants of the X6 here and have given away and sold twice that many. If I’d known Eagle Eye was going to disappear off AliExpress I’d probably have bought a dozen but they didn’t say anything to me about it although I just got 2 last week. Go figure huh?

These are still nice little lights, even smaller with the reduced bezel length (what passes for the head is really a bezel) I wish they’d left a much thicker emitter shelf area instead of reducing the bezel, seems like it would have been pretty easy to just machine the pill section shallower up top and leave the bezel as is, but again, nobody asked me… :wink:

I thought it was just out of stock again :frowning: Loved the X6 host ……

I didn’t notice this thread, but did the same “lego-ing” like you did. :slight_smile:

I didn’t have the original Kronos X6, only the later released Astrolux S2.

I notice that the S2 tailcap doesn’t work (or make contact) with the X6S 18350 tube, but it does work with the X6S 18650 tube.
The X6S tailcap will also work properly with the Astrolux S2 18650 body tube.

But both of them do not fit (cannot screw — likely different thread screw pattern) the original Eagle Eye X6 body tube or head.
(ie. X6S/S2 18650 body tube won’t screw into the EE-X6 head; the X6S/S2 tailcap won’t screw into the EE-X6 18650 body tube either)

nice pics, thanx

Thanks… sony vtc5a gives more lumen for this light… so i just ordered some vtc5a, and 21700 from illumn with free s/h… i am sure more 20700/21700 lights are releasing… :slight_smile:

Dale, are you just saying that EE went out of business?

Looks like a solid light that performs! Thanks for the review.

Yokiamy, I just don’t know. They are no longer listed on AliExpress so I don’t know if they are changing names or what happened to them. They were listed as Shenzhen Jin Lang Electronics Co., I just got a couple of hosts from them a couple of weeks ago, I’m told they are changing the name but…

Just got my x6s xpl hi NW today…
i got

2700 lumen with the sony vtc5a.
2500 lumen with the sony Vtc5…

I am using texas ace tube with the maukka calibrated light.

On a fresh charged Sony VTC5A, at 30 seconds, I get 2708.

By the way I am using the disc I got from Texas ace… I will keep doing more testing…

So the Sony VTC5A hits the sweet spot of this lights output over the Sony VTC6A, Sanyo GA 3450 or 30Q?

I know nothing about driver design. How do the capacitors make it more reliable?

Bistro was originally designed for a single emitter light, the X6, by our own Toykeeper. When we got to modding these into triples a glitch developed due to the increased current draw. There are a couple of ways to remedy this, Mateminco engineers went with this one.

Edit: There, fixed that little snafu on my part, been working for days on a Sofirn light and it crept into that statement I guess. Sorry about that.

I got 2700 lumen @ turn on, using sony vtc5a… if you are getting 3150 lumen @ turn on then your light must be very special made… lol…

Either way, lets enjoy.

Mateminco has high grade testing equipment that shows these make 3000 lumens, before you question my 4 yr old + light box that regularly equals factory specs you should look somewhere else…

Sofirn? or do you mean Mateminco? :wink:

At first, I asked Neal if these X6S had the remedy installed, so looks like they used this remedy of stacked resistors.

I have a question: regarding Bistro and this light.

With Bistro, if you configure the mode sets into 1 mode (let’s say 100% brightness only), and disable Moon mode.
So now the X6S is a 1-mode flashlight (Turbo mode).

a) If Thermal Stepdown is enabled, to what brightness level will the stepdown become?

b) If Thermal Stepdown is disabled (click during the first second after going to thermal calibration mode), does it mean there will be no stepdown (battery voltage drain will still cause brightness to decrease in a more or less linear(?) manner )

Thanks d_t_a, fixed it in the original misguided post… they actually stacked capacitors not resistors, I think that was an early fix but DEL actually found a better more stable workaround by tombstoning an 100 Ohm resistor between the diode and 10 Ohm Cap. Trickier to do, for sure.

They used the original Bistro, not the final revision. So it has 7 or 4 modes, not the programmable table. Timed step down, not thermal. This is the same orange colored BLF X6 board that was in the X6/X5 group buy lights. Or, that’s what’s in the sample I got, times two.

7 or 4 programmable modes = this the BLF A6 driver, not Bistro isn’t it? You mean your X6S came with BLF A6 driver instead of Bistro?

(easy check if BLF A6 driver or Bistro driver, is to test the battery-check: BLF A6 will blink 0 to 5 blinks to indicate approximate battery level, whereas Bistro will blink out the digits, like 4.1v will be 4 blinks, pause, then 1 blink, then long pause and repeat.)

You’re kidding me, right? I guess you joined after all this was done. If you could only know how many of these I’ve built from scratch…

A6 had a straightforward Strobe mode, Bistro has a tactical strobe that changes frequency. And then of course there’s the 4 blinks to show 100% and 3 to show 75% and so on of the A6 as compared to the actual voltage blink of Bistro.

Yes, it’s Bistro. An early version straight off the shelves of backstock alley…