Received my Olight S1R BATON II today and surprise, the battery is marked:
ORB-163C05-10C
FIT FOR S1R BATON II
HIGH PERFORMANCE IMR BATTERY WITH
OVER-CHARGE, OVER-HEAT PROTECTION,
AND EXPLOSION PROTECTION
The new wording on this battery does not specifically mention a circuit board or use the word “overdischarge” and is certainly curious. The outer shell is essentially the same length as the older protected ORB-163C05 and ORB-163C06 batteries, and it has the same “bulge” on the “positive” end to accommodate a protection PCB as those batteries have.
I haven’t tested its behavior yet, but one thing to be aware of in doing so is that not all protected batteries have to trip and latch/stay at zero volts when their protection circuit is actuated (sometimes requiring bootstrapping or charging in a “special” charger to reset the protection PCB). The tripping behavior is merely a choice made by the circuit designer. There’s no reason a tripped battery can’t provide its seriously depleted voltage to its terminals for reading by a relatively high input resistance DMM, yet not supply any significant output to a real load if called on to do so if that’s the way it was designed. Some protected batteries can be reset/restored if merely presented with a voltage higher than a specific threshold (doable in just about any CC/CV charger), while others may require a special reset routine that may or may not involve genuflecting and making symbolic gestures and/or the uttering of oaths.
It also appears that the proprietary plastic ring on the “positive” end of the ORB-16C05-10C that prevents it from being charged in many (but probably not all) stand alone chargers can be easily be defeated by popping a 6 mm/1/4 inch neodymium magnet onto the center terminal (AS LONG AS ONE IS CAREFUL INSERTING IT INTO/REMOVING IT FROM THE CHARGER).
I’m probably not going to unwrap one of these new batteries to find out what’s really inside until one gets old and weak.
So the confusion about Olight RCR123A battery protection continues…
my local distributor just received their stock of ORB-16C05-10C, bought 2 as spares. I was waiting to get my hands on these spares as backup to start verifying runtime on the lowest mode of 0.5 lumen. I'm basically in the opinion that doing this test has detrimental effects to the battery...
will report back in a week or two of the test results... stay tuned... ;)
Well, the result is in.
Having to report this now after just a week... well, you guessed it, it's ~8 days 11 hours.
Starting Voltage: 4.20V
Ending Voltage: 2.48V
Oh, one more thing, the battery level indicator at the switch button light up in RED when light cuts off.
Thank you rookiedaddy!! That is quite impressive, but the 15 days mentioned on specs are another half way almost… So, I guess the 15 days are just an estimation, right? Am I reading this data correctly?
EDIT: Sorry, I saw a the data of the S1R Baton “I” that would last 15 days on the mode 5 = 0.5 Lumens! I apologize for the confusion :person_facepalming:
It is a great little light, but I cannot get myself to order autumn and summer. The Gold is just over the top and a CW emitter is not really for me and I don’t wanna have to mod an 80€ light, just to like it.
The rainbow titanium anodisation however is a must . but seems stuck in customs… so it will probably arrive after Christmas.
The Friendship blue looks really nice too and is a great idea of Olight to thank all their reviewers.
They are making great lights but they need people to tell others about it, and great reviews are a lot of work.
A really nice gesture.
Thanks for posting. Not sure if the first few batches omitted it or you got a faulty unit, but I tested and there’s a blocking diode in the base (.432V), which means it’s impossible to discharge the battery by shorting the external contacts. They will only allow power to flow into (charge) the battery.
The MCC 1A/1.5A/2A (aka MCC3) can be used to charge S1R Baton II without "problem". Note that these MCC3 charge indicator will turn Green before the battery is fully charge and it will continue to charge your light if you leave it connected. This "Top-Up" or "Top-Off" charge will carry on in lower charging rate of <300mA for another 40-50 minutes before it's finally done... the charged battery will rest somewhere between 4.15 - 4.17V while using the MCC1A will rest between 4.18 - 4.21V, depending on the multi-meter calibrations.
Generally, the MCC1A cable will gives a fuller charge (close to 4.2V) than the MCC3 cable.
Btw, just a heads-up, if you get your Warrior Mini from official Olight channel, Olight announce that owners of Warrior Mini are entitled to a pair of silicone cover and a gift light. You can refer to their US facebook group for details.
In OlightWorld video (youtube) it can be seen the charging “button” in the bottom of the winter version (at least)!!
