The inner tube is only there there to pass the tail switch signal (normally open, signal is connect to ground) from the tail to the driver.

If it gets displaced, say at the driver end, it gets grounded. No hazard, (unless locked onto turbo) except it stops working.

Or perhaps open-circuit. Same difference.

Firmware could detect such a fault condition (grounded) and do the necessary. E.g. shut down.

Every time the cell is replaced/recharged this connection is re-made. So it has to be ultimately reliable. And the arrangement sturdy (not thin-walled pieces relying on delicate tolerances, particularly pressing against a few microns of plating on a driver PCB).

That’s as I understand it. I could be completely wrong, and look forward to seeing how it turns out. This is certainly not an obvious way to make such a thing. My interest is just to see how far this goes, and how well it eventually works.

If delivered successfully it will definitely be unique, and well worth the “investment”.

Crack on.

BlueSwordM wrote:

@iamlucky13, I thought he only wanted samples, not a full reel.

If so, I’ll be including them in my original post.

I wasn’t sure, so I figured I’d add the information to the thread.

Besides, who knows what other members might want 800 emitters.

(Pretty sure RMM already has bought that many)

Received a New PM message in my email just now, Got so excited, thought it was for this. But was for another light I forgot about. Just read a couple pages back and looks like early next year maybe?

Tom Tom wrote:

If delivered successfully it will definitely be unique, and well worth the “investment”.

Piston Drive, which I think was actually invented by McGizmo, is a different design. PD flashlights don’t have a switch in the tail at all, just the end of a piston that transmits mechanical force to a switch in the head.

The FW3A isn’t the first to use nested tubes to transmit an e-switch signal from the tail to the driver though. Several dual-tailswitch designs from Nitecore, Fenix, and Klarus do this. The Folomov 18650S also uses a tail e-switch, but I’m not sure if it has nested tubes or uses a different technique.

I find the FW3A compelling because it puts together a combination of features in a way that I expect to work really well for how I use an everyday carry flashlight, and does so at a very low price. It doesn’t need to be the first light with some feature in order to do that.

18650s has the entire driver at the tail, only components at the head are the LED and a bleed resistor.

Cereal_killer wrote:

18650s has the entire driver at the tail, only components at the head are the LED and a bleed resistor.

Thanks for that list Zak.Wilson!

Quote:

So… Here’s a first stab at a flashlight iceberg tier system:

TK, that needs hotlinks!

PS, how would our corporate overlords describe us?
Something like: http://crackedlabs.org/dl/CrackedLabs_Christl_CorporateSurveillance.pdf

zak.wilson wrote:

I find the FW3A compelling because it puts together a combination of features in a way that I expect to work really well for how I use an everyday carry flashlight, and does so at a very low price. It doesn’t need to be the first light with some feature in order to do that.

Exactly. That’s the point of the FW3A. It may not do anything particularly new, but it puts together a lot of good older ideas into one nice package. It’s a well-rounded sort of design for practical use. That’s why I carry it around on a daily basis even though I have a hundred other lights to choose from.

ToyKeeper][quote=zak.wilson wrote:

That’s why I carry it around on a daily basis even though I have a hundred other lights to choose from.

Hello, decided to finally make an account, I’ve been watching this project for some time now, and I wouldn’t want to be too late to the interest list. So, put me down for one, and big thanks to everyone involved!

I definitely want one when available and I am patient, not really but the wait will be worth it. The light looks like a work of art with those clean lines.

Welcome to the forum guys. You should see your names added to the list the next time it’s updated.

ToyKeeper wrote:

So… Here’s a first stab at a flashlight iceberg tier system:

Muggle:

• Plastic
  

Whew. For a moment I was worried my collection of nitrolon/GRP P60 hosts would make me weird.

Is it too late to get my name on that list?

Virisenox_ wrote:

Is it too late to get my name on that list?

Nah never too late mate, this is the never ending project with zero communication and even less progress

lionheart_2281 wrote:

Virisenox_ wrote:

Is it too late to get my name on that list?

Nah never too late mate, this is the never ending project with zero communication and even less progress

Well, occasionally coming into this thread can be tricky as normally there are some few updates, here and there, and people may lose them – if they do not read the thread correctly – in the middle of the conversation and off-topic chat!

Still, there are some updates:

Neal wrote:

Fritz replied will finished the update files soon
so we will start to produce FW3A late of this month

and anyone have the source of the LH351D LED in 4000K 90CRI?

But I must confess, lionheart_2281, many of your posts here are not encouraging or inspiring those updates…nor the waiting time!… As others form other members here in this thread as well…
This will not help the mood of the people that – like you – want this flashlight !!

It has been said before: this is not an enterprise, people will do it when they can, and as The Miller used to “say” “It’s done when it’s done” !!! :ARROW-RIGHT:

lionheart_2281 wrote:

Nah never too late mate, this is the never ending project with zero communication and even less progress

lionheart_2281 wrote:

Should be done by xmas next year, but at this rate…count on xmas 2020

lionheart_2281 wrote:

Can’t expect too much, it’s only been 17 months

lionheart_2281 wrote:

nick779 wrote:

Man, hard to believe its been 5 months since I last checked in on this thread. Im still stoked for this light. I love my pflexpro triple, but this is going to be a perfect little light the way its looking.

You certainly haven’t missed much

I understand getting antsy, Ive always been a bit of an instant gratification kind of person. Even for ym overseas orders ill tend to bundle a few and eat the cost of express shipping. Beats waiting 2 months to find out something is lost and being back to square one.

In regards to this project though, its definitely worth waiting for imo. Its innovative, its small, its still relevant in the market today (features, FW, build, size, emitters, power), and its a BLF project.

Hi, I’m new in the forum. I have been reading it for some time and I have decided to join finally.
I would like to be on the list for one. (This is worrying, I just ordered a D4 and I’m already wanting more)

Poguche wrote:

Hi, I’m new in the forum. I have been reading it for some time and I have decided to join finally.
I would like to be on the list for one. (This is worrying, I just ordered a D4 and I’m already wanting more)

I propose a damn bet — what will happen earlier:

1. FW3A;
2. Manned landing on Mars…

I’m in for one warm white

vadimax wrote:

I propose a damn bet — what will happen earlier:

1. FW3A;
2. Manned landing on Mars…

Come on. How about harmless and clean nuclear fusion powerplants.

No kidding. The FW3A will arrive before the landing on Mars. Unless the latter is done by Elon Musk e.a.
Red tape at NASA is so time consuming that when the construction of the craft is competed they get a warning from Bill Gates that the installed OS is no longer supported.

vadimax wrote:

I propose a damn bet — what will happen earlier:

1. FW3A;
2. Manned landing on Mars. . .

I would like to be in for one, please.

JasonWW wrote:

grizzley wrote:

Hi, I'm new here and was steered toward this thread. I would like to be added to the list please. Could you put me down for 1

Yes, you should be added to the list in the next week or sooner. Welcome to BLF.

THANKS!

derivepower wrote:

I would like to be in for one, please.

Then, ToyKeeper copied the pepinfaxera list and pasted it in the General List Post#4 pague 1.

This: will be done when it is done.

Edit : You are at number #1479, Primary Interest List, (main): See Post # 4, Page 1 .

derivepower wrote:

Fri, 07/27/2018 – 01:32 : Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)”
Yes, I would like one too, please.

I definitely want to be on the list for one

I am currently on the list for 2 lights (#1466 and #1567). I would like to stay on the list, but only for 1 light total. Can you please remove one of my requests? Pepinfaxera, thanks so much for your management of this! It’s much appreciated.

SKY69 wrote:

I definitely want to be on the list for one

autoxer wrote:

I am currently on the list for 2 lights (#1466 and #1567). I would like to stay on the list, but only for 1 light total. Can you please remove one of my requests? Pepinfaxera, thanks so much for your management of this! It’s much appreciated.