[2018-11-30] Report post button

Like buttons turn the forum into a good old boys club in my opinion. I’ve seen other forums where the newcomer posts and then everyone piles on in support of the long established forum member whether it is warranted or not.

Thank you SB, both for the forum overall, and for this thread.

>quotes

I think I recall one of the non-testosterone-soaked programmers who participates here describing a way to use Stylish to avoid seeing deeply nested quotes. And also a way to block seeing annoying signature blocks over and over.

I like the quote button.

It lets everyone know what I am responding to, plus Boaz doesn't like it, so it has to be good.

(I'm not a fan of big nested quotes, however.)

That bunch of crap is the way our administrator wants this forum to be, it is in the rules that you are not allowed to be rude, use dirty language etc. And IMO that is also not needed for a flashlight forum, which is not a man’s forum (whatever a mans forum may look like). There’s probably places on the internet for the type of men who like to express themselves in ways you do not want your cildren to watch and I for one am glad that BLF is not such a place. And not just because my son does look over my shoulder every now and then.

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A plethora of Social Sites exist for those in need.
Clemence wrote BLF is about testing, not arguing.
Perhaps becoming more relevant has not pleased everybody.
Those who are most interested in actually using flashlights have sb,
and the serious members who are setting the pace to thank.

Thank you djozz. Well said.

A gentle message:

Which was subtle, inoffensive, but made a serious point at a time of great change and disruption here.

Brixton riots and the rest. Just waiting to kick off again, stoked by the usual suspects. It’s a powderkeg. We really do know how to do a good riot, when provoked, and can even beat the French at that.

Maybe time to let off some steam, I think it’s time for a release.

Now, it’s coming again (29 March). Mark it in your diaries and stay away.

I like that music, it was the time that my musical taste was formed and I especially liked the Specials. I have their (just 2, Specials, More Specials) records on vinyl and have to repair my record player at some point to listen to them again.

Well, you’re both right.
The question is where the red line should be drawn.

Kids know people sometimes use “bad” language, by the way.
They use it themselves too.
It also depends on the context if it’s over the red line or not.

We should be able to behave “normal” here i.m.o.

Its not really a button is it ?

I think this is very well said. :+1: . It speaks of ‘balance’, not legalism.

Hmmm… Well, you do have to ’click it’…. :wink:

Disclaimer: I’m not sure if this comment should be posted or not. On the one hand, my post is argumentative, it quotes problematic things, and it takes the bait instead of ignoring bait. On the other hand, Boaz’s post brings up some common sentiments which come up frequently and may be worth addressing instead of ignoring. When these things come up people may be angry, but they don’t seem to have harmful intent, and their feelings probably shouldn’t be ignored.

So… if this shouldn’t be here, please let me know and I’ll remove it. It seems like the most common sentiments should be addressed somehow though, even if not by me.

Oh. I guess I should leave. :frowning:

More seriously though, I could write a dissertation on the negative effects this type of attitude has, not just on internet forums but society in general… but on to more focused matters instead:

Although this takes things a bit far, I do think there is a valid point in here. The rude/report button goes a long way toward reducing bad behavior, but sometimes it’s not enough. Sometimes it’s important to also say something about why a post is problematic. Especially if the comment’s core message happens frequently.

… which is why I’m responding to this instead of clicking the button.

Sometimes a private message is a good way to do that. Sometimes something more visible is needed though, because the direct recipient isn’t the only one who needs to see the message. Something more visible can make the difference in whether new members join the forum, whether old members leave, or whether a troll feels safe posting something rude later.

Granted, it’s very difficult to challenge a troubling post in a way which doesn’t make things worse, so people should normally use the button instead. That’s kind of the point of it, to end fights before they start. And to move the handling of these things to someone who is both good at it and has the power to take action if necessary.

I think sb does a really good job striking a balance between too much intervention and too little intervention, between a police state and a troll haven.

Are you sure that fear is the healthiest way to encourage good behavior? Surely, there are other motivations which could work? Research has shown that the carrot is usually more effective than the stick.

This is a common complaint lately, all over the internet. But it seems like people may just be upset that a lot of the internet is becoming a legitimately nice place where bad behavior isn’t tolerated any more, where people aren’t okay with rudeness or sexism or slurs or meanness in general. People all over are generally just preferring to be nice and get along and try to make everyone feel welcome. It’s not about censorship or being pansies. People can handle the bad behavior; it’s just that they are rejecting the idea that poor behavior is cool or desirable.

Political slogans, just like politics in general, are counterproductive to the forum’s health.

It’s bad enough when people put strong political or religious opinions into their signatures; please don’t make it part of the post itself.

Irony intentional?

One thing I’ve tried very hard to do when I’m around is to make sure new members’ voices can be important too, not just old members. Sure, maybe some people show up with no clue and say things which are misguided, but other new people show up with really good ideas which breathe life into the forum. I don’t think it’s beneficial to ignore people until their post count is big enough to graduate from the kiddie table. At minimum, new members are good at seeing what is in the older members’ blind spots.

For example, two people who showed up and started making valuable contributions almost immediately are pepinfaxera and zeroflow. I’d hate to think how things would be if people like this felt too unwelcome or too invisible to participate.

Me too, honestly. And I’m more guilty than most. In such a “man’s forum” though, it’s kind of a requirement for a girl to have a, um, how shall we put it… a healthy self-image… in order to even participate in such a place without pretending to be a guy.

And that’s an issue I hope we can change.

Install the “Stylus” extension. Put this into it as a new theme:
http://toykeeper.net/torches/css/limit-quote-depth.css.export

Suddenly, no more quoted-quoted-quoted quotes. :slight_smile:

Also feel free to edit it to change the maximum quote depth.

I take it for what it is =a figure of speech
Sometimes certain people are a bit trigger happy with the rude button .
I’m glad it’s not called the rude button now ,I’m sure sb has better things to do than than To go over every rude button press , I’m sure there’s numerous presses per day ,most are probly not worth worrying about.

Its no secret that there are simply far, far too many people who waste the better part of their miserable lives on an obscure flashlight forum, with virtually no life outside of it. Many have a family they ignore to live their lives here. So pathetic! :confounded: AND many of their comments are frivolous, falsely speculative and inaccurate, while coming across as authoritative experts, which drastically lowers the overall quality of this forum. You know the ones… who constantly post stupid crap in nearly every thread posted.

I have inquired several times for a tool to block certain profiles to weed out the foolish, but Mr. Admin wants us all to read everyone’s posts, no matter how irritating, condescending and wasteful. So to help alleviate the torrent of verbal diarrhea and nonsense that spews forth from the foolish/incompetent/pathetic, I propose that Mr. Admin graciously considers the addition of…

a huge red “TIME-OUT-YOU-FRIGGEN-MORON!!!” button, to boot them for a contiguous 3 month period of time. Yes, indeed… that would be quite a fun and popular button to press! :laughing: :innocent: :partying_face: Mr. Admin could charge a $10 paypal fee for each press, and it would still get completely hammered by hundreds who wish a turn in helping to get rid of the “verbal projectile diarrhea spewers”! I would think a threshold of 3 button presses should be sufficient in eliminating the cretins.

What say thee, Mr. Admin? The funny thing is this would actually work, while increasing the quality and integrity of information and the friendly demeanor of this forum. Not to mention your bottom line.

…AND Im still waiting patiently for our SUREFIRE and CPF banishing buttons! :beer:

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Should posts with commercialization in sig lines be limited to the commercialization listings?
Why should unlimited sig line space be allocated to insignificant “me too” posting?
Who needs more than a line or two for a relevant sig line?

I'm not a fan of wordy signatures.

(In fact, my sig probably has too many words.)

But I wish more people would put pics in the signatures.

And everyone should have an avatar as well.

I think it adds character.

The tools are available. This can be accomplished individually with the Stylus browser plugin and a few lines of code.

Here is an example of the code to use: http://toykeeper.net/torches/css/blf-blacklist.css.export

You can make someone’s posts appear smaller or dimmer, or even entirely invisible if you like.

I don’t see much of this any more as i don’t go into the big threads its a pain to many people with differing opinions and views plus to many reply’s of a random nature. I am sure i have my moments where i rant and rave i am not perfect either but i try not to start conflict. I do a majority of reading and only reply here and there now.

I think naturally its normal for a new member to be some what troublesome and speak there mind. Not so much in a bad way what they are saying may be correct but the thread or reply may lead to bigger issues. We can usually pick out the better members after a while. Plus new members may only know half a story.

Other issue here is new SOME new members only join to be apart of group buys which is not what BLF is about and when money is involved no good happens lol.