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The design may have something to do with ease of manufacture for Lumintop. I wonder if one of their other lights is similar enough to the design in the photos and instead of setting up tools and fixtures to make a light exactly as Fritz had envisioned it, they are going with their own designs.

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Geuzzz wrote:

Great color as is. I like the slight green in there.

Really?
I dont see green in the middle of the tubes.
I would guess its the reflection from the green table.

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JasonWW wrote:
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I think no host changes have been approved and somebody has some explaining to do.


There might not be any host changes. It’s looks pretty much exactly like it’s supposed to.

It’s just the ends being unscrewed that make it look different.

Why would there be two o-ring grooves on the head side? I thought the clip was designed solely to go on the tail hence the revised chamfered portion.

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nvanlaar wrote:
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I think no host changes have been approved and somebody has some explaining to do.


There might not be any host changes. It’s looks pretty much exactly like it’s supposed to.

It’s just the ends being unscrewed that make it look different.

Why would there be two o-ring grooves on the head side? I thought the clip was designed solely to go on the tail hence the revised chamfered portion.

That’s what it looks like to me too.

At the tail it looks like they’ve cleared a groove for a slip-on clip. If that was merely the tailcap not fully screwed in the interior of the groove wouldn’t be completely smooth. It would have threads and an o-ring slot near the top.

I’m also not quite sure about the groove at the top of the picture. It looks like it has what might be an o-ring slot, but no threads. Did Lumintop just decide to put a decorative groove on booth ends and the light in their picture IS actually fully screwed together?

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joechina wrote:
Geuzzz wrote:

Great color as is. I like the slight green in there.

Really?
I dont see green in the middle of the tubes.
I would guess its the reflection from the green table.

I guess you are not a tint snob Smile I unfortunately am and I developed a spider sence for green.

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I can’t imagine a reason for posting a picture with the parts not screwed together. It doesn’t make sense to me.

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Oh for the love of baby jesus. Please tell me they aren’t going to put a damn snap on clip on this light. That I think, would put a bunch of folks over the edge.

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cabfrank wrote:
I can’t imagine a reason for posting a picture with the parts not screwed together. It doesn’t make sense to me.
Taking a third look at the picture I now notice a decorative groove on both ends of the battery tube. The groove is the recessed area with raised ridge in the center.

Why do I think it’s a decorative and not just the light partially unscrewed? …. the grooves have no threads in them.

Though maybe I am wrong and those are just slots for double o-rings. I don’t think so though. If it was for double o-rings I would expect the same groove depth at both ends of the battery tube.

In addition to the decorative grooves, the bottom of the battery tube has a larger flat area just above the decorative groove that looks clearly designed for a slip-on clip.

Personally, I don’t like this new look. Looks overly complex. I much prefer the previous prototype.

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Oh for the love of baby jesus. Please tell me they aren’t going to put a damn snap on clip on this light. That I think, would put a bunch of folks over the edge.

Agreed. That would go against the whole concept.

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I tend to agree with you, and if so, it is quite a departure in design.

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When comparing the proportions it’s pretty obvious that, like it was said, head and tailcap are unscrewed.

> photoshopped >

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Screw it up please

Have a look above and next please…
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maukka wrote:
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Yeah, i know, but then the graph suggests the color temp gets cooler when power increases, which is not the case. LEDs have a cooler tint when running on low power, get warmer tint when power increases.

This depends on the LED but most I’ve tested have gotten cooler with increasing current.


Really??
Or maybe you mean this is the case in the range above very low modes.
Very low modes like ‘moon’ and ‘firefly’ give relatively more blue, i guess the phosphor is not excited by very low levels of 450nm.
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But why post that ?

Makes no sense.

Screw it.

And please someone send some proto 4s to the people who are still trying hard, not being lackadaisical.

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tatasal wrote:
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I think no host changes have been approved and somebody has some explaining to do.


There might not be any host changes. It’s looks pretty much exactly like it’s supposed to.

It’s just the ends being unscrewed that make it look different.

You are most probably correct in that observation.


Sure hope so !!
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That is the coarsest threading I have ever seen on a light… or… possibly an o-ring slot and a slot for a snap-on-clip. If it does screw together and cover the two slots, that seems like wasted space.

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Double o-rings, good design.

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Double o-rings, good design.
Yup. If those actually are double-o ring slots, that would be good design.

However, at the tailcap, the upper ledge of the “o-ring slot” seems like it would be too shallow to actually hold an o-ring. Screwing in the tailcap would push that o-ring out of position.

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Thinner o-ring Smile

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CRX wrote:
Double o-rings, good design.

I really don’t think so. Unnecessary, and other aspects that I have observed on this image are troubling.

For starters, putting an o-ring into a rough bead-blasted groove with some shonky anodising is really not cool. If you want to create a seal, do it competently, or don’t bother. That means precise machined surface finish and materials selection. Slathering it with grease may also help. If you dive, you might understand this a little.

But since this is what it is, it probably doesn’t matter at-all to most customers.

It’s not as if we have even seen these supposed double o-rings in-situ. Well if two are better than one, why not three, or four where do you stop ?

Do it properly and one is enough. Two maybe for a dive torch, but that comes with downsides too. Double the maintenance, and you never really know whether either, or both, are serviceable. A bit like flying twin-engine planes.

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Is that a piece for sale?
What do you want for thirty odd dollars, rocketship precision?

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You could maybe take it diving with double O-rings.. Silly

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Btw, talking about double O-rings in non-dive lights:


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Lot of maintenance there…

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I heard back from Neal: “this is not the final verison, they are test the color”

Also, I hope this answers some questions:

(before anyone asks, this is one light photographed twice, not two lights)

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ToyKeeper wrote:

(before anyone asks, this is one light photographed twice, not two lights)

What sorcery is this???

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Jerommel wrote:
maukka wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
Yeah, i know, but then the graph suggests the color temp gets cooler when power increases, which is not the case. LEDs have a cooler tint when running on low power, get warmer tint when power increases.

This depends on the LED but most I’ve tested have gotten cooler with increasing current.


Really??

Really. I highly recommend looking through maukka’s reviews to see graphs of the exact path the LED tint takes through color space as the power increases. In great detail, he has published quantified measurements of many different types of LEDs. It’s very useful information, well beyond what the manufacturers provide.

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chadvone wrote:
What sorcery is this???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP

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Needless to say, looks great. We are all waiting to throw cash at somebody.

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