OSRAM CSLNM1.TG & CULNM1.TG 1mm², CSLPM1.TG & CULPM1.TG 2mm²

I did some measurements on 3 of the best 2mm^2 LEDs, the dedomed XPG2 (new style), close sliced SST20, and white flat 2mm^2. The white flat is from Mouser and the item has a range of possible bins so I don’t know the exact bin. I measured the output by measuring the lux directly above the LED (80cm away) and assuming the light emitting surface is a Lambertian surface, which is a good approximation. See here some more information about this method. I use a Tondaj LX-1010B lux meter. The lumen numbers are approximately close to others’ measurements, but assume the usual 10-20% possible error.

I then measured the beam intensity of each LED in an EE X6 head powered by a constant current power supply. dedomed XPG2: 95.2kcd at 4.5A, sliced SST20: 92kcd at 4A, white flat: 111kcd at 6A. I calculated the luminance by dividing by the reflector area of 620mm^2 and assuming 90% reflector and glass efficiency. Then I scaled the output graphs according to this information and the luminance vs current is displayed below.

The white flat and dedomed XPG2 curves have close to the same relationship in the output and luminance graphs, which is expected since their dies have very similar areas. But the sliced SST20 luminance curve is high compared to its position in the output graph. I think this is explained by a non-uniform luminance across the SST20 die. The SST20 has a close slice, but obviously some silicone remains on the die, as pictured here. Near the edges of the die light can reflect off the silicone/air interface and exit the die to the side. This light doesn’t contribute to the light coming directly from the die; it bounces to the side and a higher fraction of it gets absorbed or emits to the side where it isn’t useful. You can see by looking at the lit die that the edges are less bright than the center, pictured below.

The other LED dies are much more uniform in brightness over their surfaces. I think this is the reason for the SST20 having a lower output than the other LEDs. But the measured luminance is high, even higher than the other LEDs for most of the curve. This is because measuring the luminance by measuring the beam center intensity from a reflector only measures the LED die-center luminance.

Conclusion:
These 3 LEDs perform relatively close to one another at a given current, but in real world use there are big differences. The dedomed XPG2 still performs well, but the high forward voltage means the current can be low, especially in a mulit-emitter light. The SST20 improves upon the XPG2 in this aspect with its lower voltage, but dedoming difficulties hold it back. The domeless white flat with its very low voltage and higher max output is the clear winner in some applications (multi-emitter), but driving a single emitter optimally might be more difficult.

What about the Nitecore TM16GT?

Thanks for the comprehensive data EasyB. Any reason you settled on 6A for the white flat? Curious what it could do in the EE X6 host with 8A.

Thanks,

From my measurment stock M2 has 75 kCd ( 3m lux reading distance )
With Osram 2mm^2 180 kCD ( 3m lux reading distance )

M2 Archer has step down driver set up to 6A to the led.
The stabilization is from 4.2 to 3.3V

You’re welcome. No particular reason for 6A except that it’s a moderately high current I might expect in a quad light with these emitters. Based on my output measurements the throw at 8A should be about 10% higher than at 6A.

Do you know if the Maxtoch M1 and M2 uses the same reflector? The length of the M1 is 10mm longer than the M2.

EasyB I added your test in a first post.

M1 and M2 has the same reflector.
M2 has side switch
M1 has tail switch and this is the reason of 10mm more

Thanks smokuxx1987! Good info, and even more impressive results given your previous readings. Good work.

Thanks for the testing EasyB. :+1:

Ahh, thanks for the clarification. Seems like the 2mm White Flat doesn’t perform too much better than the dedomed SST40. Maybe if the White Flat was driven to 8A, it might pull ahead more.

Nice testing EasyB! Even with the unavoidable uncertainties it gives the insight that these leds from different manufacturers are all close to each other.

Have someone found good centering ring for these and C8? Im using one from old Fenix right now, but it is for little bigger led and is little difficult to tune up although height is pretty good.
Btw org C8+ with XPL HI 6800lux and now 13200 with 2mm2. Own measurement method, maybe better to say I managed to gain 94%.

There is no from the shelf centering ring for Oslon leds, but if you can find one that fits your reflector and has a square cut-out for a XP-size led, you can make your own second cut-out for the Oslon led at 45 degrees from the XP cut-out using an exacto knife or scalpel, like I did for the mini-GT :

Wow! Nice work :o

djozz, what does the corona look like?

I will have a look again when I use the led in a new host (not in the mini-GT because it has a new led already), but I noticed nothing in the beam that pointed at the rectangular die shape, in this smooth reflector it produces a fine distinct hotspot with limited corona.

Corona in the X6 was round. I guess it makes sense since a reflector takes a circular average of the LED to make the beam. The same reason a square LED makes a round beam. I would expect a slightly distorted spill outline though.

Managed to get pretty good, although could be better.

I may be remembering wrongly. If so, feel free to help me out. :wink:

My understanding has been that a properly focused parabolic reflector takes aim from one central spot. All the light from that one spot forms the hot spot of the beam, and the rest of the light from the die is out of focus. So, the die shape shouldn’t affect the hot spot at all. If it is a particularly well focused reflector, the corona may show some rounded version of the die shape. But it depends also on how bright the spill is, and how it blends from corona to spill.