[♛ FreemeGB] Fireflies PL47 Gen II 4*XP-L/ Nichia/ SST20 Hi CRI 21700 Right Angle Flashlight - ENDED

I am using thrunite th30 headstrap on my pl47. It works great.

Nice find Newlumen! Thanks for letting us know! :slight_smile:

Yesterday I recieved my two PL47 ordered on day 1 of the GB. Tracking number never worked and I was just about to inquire with FF why tracking number cant be found.

The PL47 is much smaller than I thought. It is shorter than about every single 18650 lights on the market.

I measured light output at turn on (1s) using the Texas Ace lumen tube calibrated with Maukka lights and here are the results:

Black PL47 with XP-L HI 3A V2:
4,405 with unlabeled Samsung 30T
4,310 with Vapcell 40T
3,879 with OSO 40T
4,069 with Vapcell VTC6A
3,707 with QSO VTC6A
3,103 with Vapcel NCR21700GA button top (not standard recessed top so much higher resistance)
3,612 with Efest LG M50

It is very strange because the second day I tested it, the 30T won’t exceed 4,138 lumens and both the Vapcell 40T and VTC6A measures about 3,880 lumens. I recharged them to the max several times and same result. I wonder is it because springs don’t compress as hard after several uses or the emitters lost some performance after the initial high currents tests.

Champagne yellow PL47 with 219B sw45k 9080:
1,810 with NCR21700GA button top (not standard recessed top so much higher resistance)
1,948 with Efest LG M50
1,379 with Vapcell VTC6A (drops even quicker than with the other two batteries. scary!)

Fortunately PL47 219B still works fine after that few seconds of turbo on the VTC6A and output didn’t seem to reduce after retesting with the LG M50.

I need to find a way to charge the recessed top Vapcell NCR21700GA so I can test it against the Efest LG M50. Vapcell_Dennis said the NCR21700A button top version has a lot more resistance than recessed top.

For comparison purpose, the D4S XP-L HI 5D V2 measure 3,577 lumens using Shockli 26650 and the D4 XP-L HI 5D V2 measures 3,310 lumens using VTC5D.

Tint on the PL-47 XP-L HI 3A V2 version looks better (slightly rosier) than on the ROT-66 XP-L HI 3A V3. Fireflies was not able to source more of the 3A V3 so the PL47 and E07 will be using the 3A V2, so will be 10% dimmer but slightly better tint. Not sure if the current batch of ROT66 will be V2 or still using the V3. The 219B 9080 looks just as pleasant as on the ROT66 219B 9080 if not a bit rosier.

Without batteries, both the black XP-L HI and champagne yellow 219B weigh exactly the same at 78.8g (2.78oz)

The following 21700 cells slides easily into both PL47:
unlabeled Samsung 30T
Vapcell 40T
QSO 40T
Vapcell VTC6A
QSO VTC6A
Vapcell NCR21700GA button top
Vapcell NCR21700GA recessed top
Efest LG M50

Only the Acebeam Protected cell is too long to fit but slides in without problem. I dont think the FET driver would work with protected cells anyways so no point for FF to size the light for something that is not compatible, although I doubt they even have a protected 21700 to test with.

The included headband is crap. It fits the body loosely and I would be afraid to force the PL47 head into the holder as it might scratch off the anodizing. However, the PL47 fits perfectly in the Olight H2R Nova headband and Armytek hard plastic headband. These are my favorite headbands because they are so convenient to use. The Armytek one is by far the easiest to attach/detach headlamp but might not be as secure as the Olight H2R Nova headband. So unless you plan to do some really rigorous physical activities I recommend the Armytek headband because you can easily remove or insert headlamp while wearing the headband.

The optic seems a bit dirty but it doesn’t affect the beam at all. I wouldn’t have noticed it if this issue wasn’t posted on this thread. I have a strong feeling these lights are hand assembled by Jack himself after we order them in order to accommodate so many possible option combinations. He probably doesn’t wear gloves and not working in a dust free environment (Jack please wear gloves next time and wipe the optic with a cloth if it is dirty because the PL47 head is unfortunately press fit so we cannot remove it to clean). I’m guessing he is super busy lately since there are so many PL47 and E07 orders he has to fulfill. He hasn’t responded to my repeated questions regarding the E07 that I said I need to know before I order a couple from him. I’m literally waving money in his face with zero response.

Overall, I am very pleased with the PL47 considering how it is cheaper than anything in its performance range. Actually there’s nothing even close besides the Emisar offerings. The Aux LEDs are so pretty I would buy a bunch for gifting if only it had built-in usb recharge.

Thx skv, totally useful!

Nicely done.

@SKV89, thanks for the write up.

Lets see how much longer before one gets delivered across the border by Canada Post…

I think they are playing with mine on the space station. It has, once again, completely disappeared from tracking.



Nice work Tally-ho!

No problem. Love to share data! Hope our Canadian members get it soon.

One thing I just realize last night looking at my numbers is that the PL47 is the BRIGHTEST SINGLE CELL production flashlight in the world (until the E07 comes out). If you think of it this way, it is an even bigger bang for the buck.

I just found I can’t lego my black & champagne pl47’s. If I switch tubes, they won’t work. Freaky…

I just tested it on my black xp-l HI and champagne yellow 219B. Threadwise, they lego perfectly. The XP-L Hi head works with the champagne tube. The 219B head acted strange with the VTC6A in the black tube. The purple button illuminated but aux led did not and light does not turn on with power button. I swapped the VTC6A with a NCR21700A and it worked fine. Very strange indeed.

My PL-47 is in Austin, maybe I’ll get it Monday….

Pointless for anyone to even so much as comment on that one after all that has been asked and ignored not to mention (angrily) defended. This post/thread should be referenced the next time that anyone asks dumb questions as to cell fitment.

One more question to all those who received lights already.
Can you see any AR coatings on the glass? I’m pretty sure there is no ‘98% AR coating glass lens’ as it stands in the product description. Can’t see any tint shift looking on it at an angle.
Can it be some colourless coating? I’ve only seen purple and yellow coatings on flashlights.

Not that I can see

:+1:

That is pretty impressive.

Has anyone tried the orange Rofis 21700 protected battery?
Also does anyone know the discharge Amps on that battery? I have a 219b coming and I only own the Rofis and Acebeam 21700s

Mate, forget about protected 21700 for this flashlight.

Please see post 1254.

You should be able to use protected 18650 with adapter. Fireflies advised to remove brass insert.

As mentioned though, the light may work rather wimpishly with a protection circuit, if at all. It seems to have been designed for max output and minimum size, therefore if a protection circuit is a requirement, you will need an 18650. In which case you have better options in an 18650 designed light. Especially given the limitation the circuit will likely put on the output of the pl47, i dont see a reason why one would even want the pl47 under those circumstances. It is bigger than many popular 18650 headlamps, in diameter—and a protected battery will likely diminish the output gains you would get with a hotrod. And using an 18650 is going to limit your runtime.

As to fitment, people have just started getting their lights and the reports are still coming in as to what people are finding will fit.

I have been using samsung 50e and 40t 21700 cells, with no fitment issues. But these are not protected cells.

There appears to be only 2 protected 21700 cells thus far. A rofis and an acebeam.

These unfortunately are way too big.

But 18650 protected could fit with adapter without brass plug, according to post 1254.

Hope this helps.

Please keep in mind we all just started receiving lights within the last week or so. People are only now learning what fits. There is only 1 cell listed with the pl47 on their website.