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My opinion is that the FW3A is still a very nice flashlight and I’m still in for 4 of them, and that’s it. :wink:
Many thanks to Fritz and other people involved in designing it, even if it will never go into production, at least it was an interesting project to follow.
One thing that can be put to the credit to Fritz is to have initiate a project that generates so many interests till now.

To me, it shows that there is a pretty strong perceived need to have a very small and powerful light with top tier UI and emitter choices.

I totally agree, it is a very nice & well thought out light and I am certainly still in for the four or five I’m on the list for…. but it still has to make it to the finish line. Otherwise all the neat design & great hype it deserved were an exercise of futility. :slight_smile:

yes i agree, its just sad that the project is hanging lose when the makers of light are gone missing and not updating :frowning:

This thread reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode.

“Where is everybody?”
That one?

I’m also still in for two and look forward to receiving them… sometime this year? :innocent: I hope all the delays and lack of communication don’t adversely affect the quality.

Maybe, can’t remember . Just the whole feeling.

Yeah, that’s it:

There is a sixth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space, and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears, and the sunlight of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area that we call, The Twilight Zone.

More like “Car 54, Where are You?”

My opinion:

  1. No BLF member depends on this, I do not see why you see it like that. No one except Lumintop and Fritz have spent money on this and Toykeeper spent time writing firmware and testing a prototype, all other members have wishes and expectations and have a good subject to talk about (which why we spend time on BLF), but do not depend on this project.
  2. For Fritz and most others this project is part of his hobby. Essential to hobby is that there are no obligations. If he feels like it he may disappear and go silent just like that, for any or no reason. It is a pity for Lumintop, Toykeeper and all other people who have hope for his continuing input, and a message explaining why is welcome (you’d be surprised how much effort it takes to write a simple message in a situation where people are so demanding as in this thread), but actually demanding anything is totally out of place.

If I had succumbed to all the people who more or less demanded things from me over the years on BLF I would have been stressed out in no time and have disappeared years ago, probably without notice. I try to help people out if they ask me for something, but if I do not feel like doing something I just do not do it, or take weeks to do it, or simply forget it. It is not my work, I do it for fun.

(you’d be surprised how much effort it takes to write a simple message in a situation where people are so demanding as in this thread), but actually demanding anything is totally out of place.

Well said djozz.

2 more Please :slight_smile:

I’m not surprised “you do not see how ‘I’ see it like that”. We are talking about two different things.

  • Of course none of us ’need’ this light. Did any of ‘us’ ask for this light, or was it presented & offered to us?
    It is a neat light, but the sun will still rise if it never happens.
    Your coming at this from the hobby aspect & I agree… nobody is ‘owed’ anything.
  • What I am saying is this, and it pretty much applies to anything in life. If I start something that involves others, I have learned to finish it OR have the common decency to at least tell those involved “I quit”, maybe even with no explanation.
    Don’t tell me that takes any effort at all to do.
    It is simply the respectful thing.

I see both points here however after this amount of time (since 5/2017 when it was originally proposed) disappearing from posts all together with no update good or bad is disappointing. Hank proposed his idea of having a super throw version of the D1S and when he came to the conclusion that it was not feasible he came out and said sorry no go. If the light is having issues tell us. I think most if not all BLF members will appreciate communication in this regard.

Could it be manufacturing decisions determining that Fritz needed to make a design alteration regarding tube wear lead to a conflict, or at least varying views ?

Though precision is a concept that Chinese manufacturing has been learning to dominate very well, could the realities of hand made skilled craftsmanship find conflict with mass market production realities ?

I see both sides as well. My Emisar D4 does what this light is proposed to do, so it’s not like I’m going to be at a loss if this light never happens. This is a hobby for 99% of us so we definitely should respect other people’s decision if they go “cold turkey” and leave the hobby. Obviously we can’t force a member to make lights for us :sunglasses:

For me, it rubs me that they still log in, possibly even reads this thread, yet refuse to chime in on anything. If Fritz hadn’t logged in since his last post in 2018, we could all assume he gave up the hobby, or worse, and we could move on. But every month when he logs in, we’re reminded he is still here, just chooses not to speak. Which for me, is frustrating considering how close to the finish line we are.

Not only a cat has so many lives… don’t give up too early. :wink: :beer:



Are those new pictures? It looks so good with that color

Nice :sunglasses:

Someone mentioned disappointment.
It is indeed disappointing that this project seems to be grinding to a halt.
And even if it doesn’t grind to a halt, it’s disappointing there is little to no progress at the moment, and that the main players seem to have disappeared.

Needless to say that nobody is obliged to do anything they don’t want to do anymore.

I love it :money_mouth_face: