I am 192…please put me down for 1 more (2 total).

djozz wrote:

SST-20 leds look really good in the Carclo 10507, some fraying at the edge of the hotspot closeby that virtually disappears at over 2 meter. Only if you are looking for it you see that the very edge of the hotspot is a bit cooler than the rest of the hotspot. I think it suits the FW3A better than the very floody LH351D, the 4000K and 3000K versions have better tint and CRI and a bit more spot brightness, but with a little less output.

Because for some reason the various SST-20 leds are well available in China, I’m sure that Lumintop will make an SST-20 version at some point.

When I put some in a E2L with 10507 the starburst shaped hotspot is very noticable to me. I personally am not too bothered by it but I dont think I would say virtually disappears.

Sign me up for 1 please.

Please put me down for two more.

mortuus wrote:

looks great, i guess the lightning makes it look brighter then it actually is ?

Nope, I already asked about the color some pages back, it’s not like it’s graphite gray or something (sadly ;D) – see TK’s reply:

ToyKeeper wrote:

Streamtronics wrote:

In the OP it says “current status: anodization is dark gray”… now, I can’t speak for others of course, but to me dark gray would be something like graphite (or maybe a bit lighter than that) – in the pics it looks like it’s closer to silver, kinda like a middle gray actually lol.

We asked for dark grey, though what I received is more of what I’d call a medium grey. I think it still looks good though, even though it’s a bit lighter than expected.

Just got an Emisar D4 with 4000K 95 CRI SST20 installed.

The beam looks beautiful. I think even superior to my previous favorite XPL HI 4000K.

Might have to get some of these to swap into an FW3A.

Hank has a great price on the SST20's - $1.58 each, qty 10.

Tom E wrote:

Hank has a great price on the SST20’s – $1.58 each, qty 10.

teacher wrote:

Tom E wrote:

Hank has a great price on the SST20’s – $1.58 each, qty 10.

Link please??

hi ,
Checking in, it appears there is a decision to be made.
my numbers are 739, 740, 889, 890. could you make it two of each emitter? thank you. Andy

KawiBoy1428 wrote:

teacher wrote:

Tom E wrote:

Hank has a great price on the SST20's - $1.58 each, qty 10.

Link please??

https://intl-outdoor.com/luminus-sst20-bare-led-p-936.html  

Thanks KB, ad there's more. Hank just emailed me with the part numbers of the low CRI versions:

SST-20-WCS-A120-L3652(L3-VL-BA) 6500K 
 
SST-20-WDS-A120-L2501(L3-VK-DA) 5000K 

I asked him to post on the website, we'll see. I got in the 5000K's for their better throw and output, so that DA tint I'm glad to see.

I would assume their the same SST-20's he's using in the Emisars. I email him at contact@intl-outdoor.com, and seems to get back pretty quick, might be an hour or day or two.

Is he sure that the 5000k emitter is a L3 flux binned part?

The datasheet says that the L2501 chromacity bin is a L2 flux binned part with a chance of getting the DA tint bin, which seems good.

Tom E wrote:

KawiBoy1428 wrote:

teacher wrote:

Tom E wrote:

Hank has a great price on the SST20’s – $1.58 each, qty 10.

Link please??

https://intl-outdoor.com/luminus-sst20-bare-led-p-936.html  

Thanks KB, ad there’s more. Hank just emailed me with the part numbers of the low CRI versions:

SST-20-WCS-A120-L3652 6500K 
 
SST-20-WDS-A120-L2501 5000K 

I asked him to post on the website, we’ll see. I got in the 5000K’s for their better throw and output, so that DA tint I’m glad to see.

I would assume their the same SST-20’s he’s using in the Emisars. I email him at contact@intl-outdoor.com, and seems to get back pretty quick, might be an hour or day or two.

@ TomE…. Excuse my ignorance, but what is the DA tint you mentioned?
What does the ‘DA’ signify??

I dunno - maybe ask him. He first told me they were L3, then I asked for the other tint info and that's when he gave me the part #'s.

Doesn't KD sell them here: http://kaidomain.com/Flashlight-DIY-and-Tools/LED-Emitters-or-LED-Star-on-PCB/Luminus-Leds/Luminus-SST-20-L3-DA-Neutral-White-5000K-LED-Emitter

They got a pic of the label.

Blue knows more bout this than I do, but from the SST-20 datasheet, the DA and DD tints are at or below the magical line thing...

https://download.luminus.com/datasheets/Luminus_SST-20-WxS_Datasheet.pdf

@TomE, good god you made me laugh. Magic Line thing. That’s a first

Well, the DA tint bin is precisely what it sounds like: the color tint bin, or how the beam of the light tends to go to a certain color, being red or green, below or above the curve.

The magical line you see is, simply put, the black body line. A perfect 100CRI light source will be on this line, every time. Otherwise, it might actually drift to slight green, or slight red.

Slight red is preferred by most people since it looks more saturated.

OK, thank you Tom.

Thanks Blue!! So the ‘DA’ is on the slight red side. Right??

 - that about says it all about that... 

@teacher, did not even recognize you initially. Thought someone else jumped in.

And yes, that means most of the LEDs will be on the slightly red side. At 5000k, you won’t be noticing it much, so it’ll pretty much be a pure white starting at 200-300 lumens rated.

BlueSwordM wrote:

@teacher, did not even recognize you initially. Thought someone else jumped in.

And yes, that means most of the LEDs will be on the slightly red side. At 5000k, you won’t be noticing it much, so it’ll pretty much be a pure white starting at 200-300 lumens rated.

But, moving right along…. Thank you for the info & verification.

Streamtronics wrote:

mortuus wrote:

looks great, i guess the lightning makes it look brighter then it actually is ?

Nope, I already asked about the color some pages back, …

FWIW, I put some pictures in the OP to provide a color reference. I hope it gives people a decent idea what to expect the light to look like. Basically, scroll down a bit or search for “color ref”.

I for one, REALLY like that darker gray tone.
N O I C E!!

I’m listed for qty of 2 … now I’ll commit to 1 of each emitter please.

ToyKeeper wrote:

Streamtronics wrote:

mortuus wrote:

looks great, i guess the lightning makes it look brighter then it actually is ?

Nope, I already asked about the color some pages back, …

FWIW, I put some pictures in the OP to provide a color reference. I hope it gives people a decent idea what to expect the light to look like. Basically, scroll down a bit or search for “color ref”.

It seems like a decent color reference, but more distinctly, it makes me crave a rainbow-anodized titanium version.

iamlucky13 wrote:

It seems like a decent color reference, but more distinctly, it makes me crave a rainbow-anodized titanium version.

You’ll probably have to talk to Rey (WWEFANS) about that. I still don’t know how exactly he got a rainbow-splatter finish on the Ti Dawn:

Can this triple http://kaidomain.com/Flashlight-DIY-and-Tools/LED-Emitters-or-LED-Star-on-PCB/Luminus-Leds/Luminus-SST-20-L3-DA-Neutral-White-5000K-LED-Emitter at KD fit FW3A ?

I love how this looks, especially with the frosted optics. Not sure whether to put my name down for a second one now, or wait until they’re available for general purpose.

When do I need to specify which emitter I want? Never done a group buy before

Be careful with the SST-20s, I’ve tried all the currently available 3000K, 4000K and 5000K and they all have a green tint to them at low to medium levels.

hodor wrote:

Be careful with the SST-20s, I’ve tried all the currently available 3000K, 4000K and 5000K and they all have a green tint to them at low to medium levels.

I’ve noticed that on LH351D too — greenish at low levels. And low levels are about 95% of what I use. It’d be okay if the tint was significantly below BBL, so it’d be white at low levels and pinkish at higher levels… but those seem to be difficult to obtain. I’m really hoping Lumintop can follow through with a good tint bin.

However, I’ve been pretty happy with XP-L HI and Nichia 219B. And, with a frosted enough optic, also with any other Cree emitter in a neutral white “A” or “D” tint. They’re all pink-biased so they look okay at low levels.

hodor wrote:

Be careful with the SST-20s, I’ve tried all the currently available 3000K, 4000K and 5000K and they all have a green tint to them at low to medium levels.

i dont see any green on my d4s 3000k…