WTB: Jetbeam RRT01 – Any place to buy it?! + [RRT01 2019 discussion]

I never did this with my eye10, but concluded it probably wouldn’t be too hard to do: Try filling in the detents you don’t like with super-glue gel or thermal epoxy.

filling in the detents is only half the problem
it is bad that from one detent to the next the light goes from 11 lumens to 92 lumens (81 lumen gap between detentes is a 736% increase)

the amount of drift, in other words, the continuing change in lumens, after I stop turning the dial, is to me an even more Major NO!

to be clear, even if the dial was smooth, why would I want a light that changes by itself, from 92 to 143 lumens (51 lumens increase is a 55% increase), without touching the dial

or the reverse, why would a want a light, that changes by itself, from over 21 lumens, and adjusts itself to 11 lumens? (10 lumen decrease is 48% decrease)

No Way Jose!

Hm. Never noticed any problems like that with my RRT-01 (old version), TCR-01, or EYE-10

A buddy of mine brought me over a flashlight this evening, his father gave it to him and I had already given him a bunch of lights so, he passed it on to me. A Eagletac D25AAA, I had never had one, not really into AAA lights so I just looked it up to see what it was. I saw there were two versions of it, a xp-g3 version and a nichia 219b version. Well sure enough it was the nichia. So out with the Samsung emitter and in with the Nichia. EagleTac’s website says it is a 219B SW45 D220 4500K CRI-92 emitter. Don’t know if that is all true but I can tell you the tint seems dead on and it looks quite lovely in the RRT01. That emitter just made the light even more enjoyable that it already was.

I hope I don’t derail the thread here, I just got to ask though. Toddcshoe have you ever seen one of these.
The absolute best tint I have ever seen come out of a led but I can’t seem to locate any now. Just wondering how that 219B compares to the 219A, if you could compare.

No sir, I don’t believe I have. I would like to if anyone ever finds a secret stash of them somewhere. Is there a easy way to find out what other lights these may have been put in? I will add the V10R to my saved searches on Ebay hoping for one to pop up with that Nichia in it. Any other lights I should include?

Nevermind. I never read the whole thing and realized that the V10R didn’t actually come with that emitter. All I will end up getting is XM-L V10R emails from Ebay. :person_facepalming:

I love my N219b 4500k LEDs, I have one in my RRT-01 prior model.

Its my favorite LED.
Texas Ace hooked me up with one for my Utorch S1 Mini,
Clemence also, and several other people, such as
Bob_McBob, have been sourcing N219b 4500k 9080’s… but all the while I keep hearing they are used up. Then
Firefly loads up a bunch of them, which leaves me thinking theres still stashes of them somewhere.

I hope you find some, its a special LED… not too warm, not too cool… pretty much a grail for me… Some are more pink than others…

The V10r is still a very nice host, if you like Ti… but its 16340 not 18350
I would be even more tempted by TCR-1 or Eye10 TiC, since they have the 18350 body and smooth ramp, like the older RRT-01
…model soup… I hope I got my alphabits right

I have just finished reading this thread, thanks to everyone for contributing such detailed info. I ended up with a JetBeam inadvertently via a pawn shop purchase of a tool box assortment. The light was amongst a few Streamlight Stingers that I wanted. I got the JetBeam home and cleaned it up. It is missing it’s battery spring. I’ve been using a aluminum foil spacer. I really like this light. Could someone who owns the RRT-01 please measure the springs height for me?

Congrats!
You got one of the RRT-01 with the long clip, aka first run.
I have an RRT-01 with the short clip, aka second run.
Same bodies and dials on both afaik…
there may be a difference in reflector, mine is orange peel, I think some were smooth.

The spring in mine seems to be 8mm tall.

I say seems because I did not pull it out, I measured from the top of the spring to the lip of the battery tube, and got 3cm.

Then I stuck a knife blade down the side of the tube, and marked the lip of the tube. The knife blade seems to have been 3.8mm into the body tube.

Your light works with 16340 protected cells… I like the ones Olight makes with the USB charging port:
https://www.batteryjunction.com/olight-rechargeable-16340-lithium-ion-battery.html

There is no overdischarge protection built into the light. It will work with some 18350, unprotected, so you need to monitor battery voltage yourself… The unprotected Keepower IMR 750mAh does not work in the RRT-01, the button top is too wide and is blocked by the reverse polarity ring in the head.

However, the unprotected 1200mAh Keepower IMR Works!
this is the one Im using:

The protected versions of those batteries are too long, I tried, the RRT-01 head will not reach the threads. You can also use CR123 Primary Lithium.

jon_slider, Thank you! Thanks for the battery info as well. Order placed for the 18350 cells. The Keepower mah capacity comes very close to a CR123 non-rechargeable battery in comparison. My bench meter recorded a minuscule current draw while the ring is in the “off ” position. Suprised me at first, but found a older online article that stated it is a normal condition and slightly under a normal consmption for this light. I really am enjoying the low level outputs of this flashlight. Was a headlamp version of this flashlight ever produced?

very welcome, hope you enjoy the battery
you got a really fun light

I agree the lows are amazing too
and that there is a small power drain, unless you choose to lockout by unscrewing

a rare failure mode is for the parasitic drain to become very high and it kills a battery in 3 days
I dont worry about the small normal drain, it has not affected my use

not aware of a headlamp
here is a fun addition, a friend gave me a couple glow rings

the pic is a link

even if I dont charge the glow stickers, they are still visible when I wake in the dark… handy

Thanks again, that is a clever use of gitd stair tape!!

Gonna try to defeat the copious use of blue threadlocker on the stainless bezel this week. You can see strong evidence of its application under the ring.

I concur with Jon Slider. Thank you for being open to these suggestions. Very nice to see!

Is the Captank tape brand the best for this kind of application? I was looking on-line and the cheapest roll I can find is $13. It’s 33ft, which is a lot of the stuff… but I’m finding next cheapest is about $5 for 10 feet, and only 15mm in width. So, seems like the Captank might be worth going for.

I dont know the ins an outs of glow tape
I received those two rings as a gift
good thing cause I cant cut a perfect circle, even to save myself from the dark… LOL

I did some deep googeling and found a JETBeam distributer in Australia (Pro-Tactical) who pointed me to this online retailer which still has some stock of the original RRT01 for $139AUD / $99USD. Not the cheapest but perhaps that’s why they still have some.

I’m new here and at the risk of sounding naive, it seems to me that there is a gap in the flashlight world for a great EDC and that it is entirely due to clicky UI’s.

How do BLF special edition / collaborations begin? Again I’m new here but it seems to me that the “ultimate” EDC light would have the following attributes:

-Nichia 219C 4,000 4,500 or 5,000k (or something else with high output, high cri, and a nice tint)
-Single emitter slightly throwy (Zeebralight) OR a tri-emmiter for a high lumen floody light (Emisar D4S)
–18350 or 18650
UI: most importantly a single ring dimmer switch (like the original JETBeam RRT01) that goes from OFF> Turbo with only one detent at the off position. Switch placement towards the head of the light and perhaps just 110 degrees of ring travel for one handed use. Lock-out by loosening the tail cap. No tail/side switch, no disco, no save-our-ship, no uv/blue/green/red/ir, no usb ports. Yes RGB battery indicator.

Pretty much everything else in the world doesn’t have a clicky UI: dimmer switches for overhead lights in a house, an electric drill, a bathroom sink faucet, the accelerator pedal in a car, the volume control on a stereo, the gas burner on a stove, etc. Imagine triple clicking or a press and hold to ramp up your leaf blower. An argument could be made that clicking into various fixed modes on a flashlight is like using DOS commands on a computer. Although rotary controls have been tried by many flashlight manufacturers over the years without significant success, I think it’s safe to say that very few of them have so far gotten it right. Designing the simplest light may be the most complex thing to do.

Apparently Pro-Tactical Australia toured a JETBeam factory in 2013:

This video from 2015 is pretty intense:

Although you are correct to a certain extent, the problem with implementing all of those feature in a flashlight is space. You ever look at the controls behind that dimming light switch? A lot going on back there. Everyone wants their pocket lights to fit in their pocket. Hardware dimming has been happening for a lot of years now. The dimming going on in flashlights now is all software controlled so it will all fit in our pockets and give us a simple button to use to control the output. The few rotary lights still use mechanical dimming with magnets. It keeps it to a manageable size that is still pocket friendly. We also like to keep our lights somewhat water resistant. Rotating parts on the outside of a light makes that a challenge, not impossible, but challenging. I think there are some dive lights that have slide type dimmers on them and they get up there in price quickly.

So that gets us to price. A lot of people who buy flashlights, just want light when you turn it on. That’s it. Nothing more nothing less. 90% of the flashlight buying public could care less about CRI, tint, beams and the latest wizz bang flashlight software/hardware. That is where flashlight companies make their money. The majority of the buying public, yep, the same majority that think the Bell and Howell Tac Light is a quality light. We are a minority, not to be catered to, although some people think they are, they make some lights with our suggestions in mind. They keep us happy with the latest emitters and what not. Then you have the people like ToyKeeper who keep cranking out great firmware that we can run on a increasing number of lights now. Also some great guys who work with manufactures to get someones idea made into a light for us all. Sure a few of the majority get turned into our minority but, nobody is retiring early on what we spend on flashlights.

We are extremely lucky to have the options we have now. 15 years ago we could have only dreamed of 5000 lumens of handheld light. Now it cost forty bucks shipped to your door.

The JetBeam RRT01 2019 is one sweet light. I am wondering if they will make a titanium version… I would buy one of those in a heartbeat…

They use to, it would be nice if they did it again.

O, yes, I know they did a limited titanium ran of the old version, but I was… unenlightened back then and missed it.

I hope they do the same with the new version. I will NOT miss that.