This is starting to sound like straight-up Chinese lumens. Like when the "Atomic Beam" flashlight was getting advertised with lumen numbers as high as 10,000.
I do agree that beam intensity is more impressive than lumens past a certain point. There have been a few incredible pictures of the GT/GT70 taken from a distance that have truly impressed me. A mass flooder at such distances wouldn't impress at all.
Once you’ve achieved enough lumens to provide usable spill then beam intensity is where it’s at! Lumintop GT4Lumintop GT4Lumintop GT4
LOL unless your primary goal is to blind yourself at the same time, then 100 000 lumens with tiny little OP reflectors doesn’t work.
Does anyone remember the x65vn2870!? Here’s what 100 000 lumens actually looks like! (no reflectors though so the MS18 should at least have more throw)
But seriously, the amount of light coming back at you will be blinding!
Please don’t forget to check the ones that fit in our “normal” pockets and have “modest” outputs too, they are still flashlights :innocent: :smiling_imp:
I know you and M4D M4X will have a great time
If I put my hand in front of the Q8, i get blinded. What happens if 100,000 lumens reflects off a bright surface? Will t here be an eyeball replacement program?
Look, I have no problem in pushing the envelop, but I wonder if pushing the extremes will start to get political attention. All we need is a few accidents caused by stupid people to get the general public thinking it’s a dangerous problem and subsequent political attention.
-He has been doing it there for over 10 years. No complaints yet.
-The light is only on for several seconds
-THAT amount of lumens is a rarity as far as testing
- a vast majority of his lights are tested up in the tree tops.
-I do not think there is a lot to worry about UNLESS he left it on for an extended period of time which he can’t becuase of heat build up and battery depletion.
The high lumen light Vinh was demonstrating in that video wasn’t concentrated. It was floody.
At a distance, a 100,000 lumen floody light may look dimmer than a 1,000 lumen light with a big reflector. At a distance all that matters is lux, not lumens.
And I have seen a lot of youtube videos of people testing flashlights, other then this one, none have been done off a major highway.
Case in point….
Further…
Even when i was testing my new toy, a mere 5000 lumen Q8, I got in the car and found an end street in an industrial area. Nobody gave me the right to shine it through someones window…or passing cars.
I have a DX80 and when I use it in the winter the amount of light that reflects back at me from the snow is almost blinding. 3x more lumens with even more flood to cause more backwards reflection…
Sounds like Imalent should include some welding goggles for the operator!
I was just thinking about Spartans comments on pushing the boundaries to the point that Gov’t wants to start regulating. I definitely agree that as we reach 100k lumens there is great potential for bad publicity.
I think that our primary line of defense is how expensive these lights are. That should create enough of a barrier to the irresponsible that those who buy it respect it and keep it safe so it’s not used as a toy.
I definitely agree that the potential for accidental vision damage or fire starting is serious.
On that note though: doesn’t a highly concentrated throwers beam have just as much or even more vision damage potential?